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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject: Retirement pay and pay before leaving Reply with quote

Folks, my boss is trying to say that he won't pay me my money until after I've left... Which is not at all what I want to do because i don't think he'll pay me at all. In fact I recently found out he was ripping me off on pension and forced his hand on that.

He's saying that to pay me in advance is a 'breach of contract' because our contract says I get paid on the 10th, so my payment will come on the 10th of the next month after I'm gone.

My roommate left before me and after she left he started deciding what he 'actually' owed her and made a few deductions which were total bull shit and not at all what we agreed upon.

Is there anything I can do to force him to pay me before I leave?
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're due any moneys owed BEFORE you leave the country. Just point out that you're at the end of your contract. The labor board IS your friend.
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesharris wrote:
You're due any moneys owed BEFORE you leave the country. Just point out that you're at the end of your contract. The labor board IS your friend.


Do you know where I could look to prove this, or how I would go about getting in contact with a labor board?
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also (politely) asked if they could pay me it in advance. When they said no, I got more insistent.

Later they come and tell me that my phone (which is on their plan, I ust pay him my bill directly) is getting shut off today. I get no time to call my family or friends, they just shut it off. I am still at work so I haven't had time to confront them about this yet.
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well technically they have a short while to pay severance. Can't remember exactly, couple of weeks. I found that out lasy tear when was after being paid on leaving.

It may be worth makiing noises like u r coming back soon (implying that you will be in country to deal with discrepancies).
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss doesn't pay you your pension, you will need to go to the pension office in your area and show them your plane ticket as proof that you're leaving as well as give them your bank account information where the money should be sent. To be on the safe side have your account number and the banks address and phone number as well.

Looks like he isn't happy with you at all if he just turned off the phone. Maybe you can stick around until the 10th to be sure you get your money. Oh, and I would also be sure to move anything important (passport, degree, things of value) to an apartment that your owner does not have access to.

I am not a chicken little, but that whole shutting of the phone thing is pretty crappy of them. Who knows what they might do next.
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
Your boss doesn't pay you your pension, you will need to go to the pension office in your area and show them your plane ticket as proof that you're leaving as well as give them your bank account information where the money should be sent. To be on the safe side have your account number and the banks address and phone number as well.

Looks like he isn't happy with you at all if he just turned off the phone. Maybe you can stick around until the 10th to be sure you get your money. Oh, and I would also be sure to move anything important (passport, degree, things of value) to an apartment that your owner does not have access to.

I am not a chicken little, but that whole shutting of the phone thing is pretty crappy of them. Who knows what they might do next.


Sorry I didn't mean pension, I meant retirement pay. I know he doesn't give me my pension.

Yeah it's beyond ridiculous. I agreed to stay on for 2 more months because they didn't have a replacement and he's been talking about me staying for another year and helping him build a school with him in the United states... we were on great terms. Then I confronted him to find out he was stealing money from me and this all starts happening.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pension is retirement pay. That's pretty much the definition of it. Are you talking about severance pay?
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Pension is retirement pay. That's pretty much the definition of it. Are you talking about severance pay?


In my contract my severance is referred to as 'retirement pay'.

But yes, he owes me my final check and my severance (or retirement pay) and I have a pension coming in from the government.


Does anyone know how I would get in contact with the labor board?
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this on another board but this is the original one and more appropriate.

My boss wants to pay me my final check and severance after I leave, but he did that with my roommate and didn't pay everything.

Everyone here has told me he has to pay me in advance before leaving, but I called a person at the labor board and they said he has 14 days after my contract expires. Anyone have anyway to prove this one way or the other?
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evildmn wrote:
I posted this on another board but this is the original one and more appropriate.

My boss wants to pay me my final check and severance after I leave, but he did that with my roommate and didn't pay everything.

Everyone here has told me he has to pay me in advance before leaving, but I called a person at the labor board and they said he has 14 days after my contract expires. Anyone have anyway to prove this one way or the other?


A person from the labor board is correct. You just need to be persistant in bugging your boss to pay up before you leave.
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Hamlet



Joined: 18 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pension is retirement pay. That's pretty much the definition of it. Are you talking about severance pay?


What you are calling "severance" pay is actually called "retirement" pay.

http://www.molab.go.kr/english/dont_miss/faq_view.jsp?idx=136

OP, he has 14 days to fork over your retirement/severance pay. If I were you, I would extend my visa for a couple of weeks. That way you'll be here on the 10th when he says he's going to pay you. I would also let him know that that was my plan.
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a huge screaming fight today over almost nothing. They've tried to get me to resign before and were always talking about how great of a teacher I was, but now they're saying that I'm a piece of shit and they are not going to pay me my retirement fee.

Oh well, looks like the labor boards are going to have to sort it out.
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hiddenflask



Joined: 03 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm having the exact same issue right now. i'm done in 3 weeks, but i won't get my severance until i've been gone for 2 weeks. my visa will still be good and i could stick it out at a friend's place. i'm just wondering what would happen in terms of my plane ticket (how to reschedule it, what if my vindictive boss cancels my flight, etc). lots of fun!
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severance/retirement/whatever pay is supposed to be paid annually, at the end of the 12th month of employment. Even if your contract was extended by two months, you still should get it then, which in this case means two months ago.
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