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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:44 am Post subject: John Terry |
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Honestly, enough of the 'bridge too far' comments.
What do people feel should honestly be done in this situation. The litany of offences are too many to count. He is the England captain after all. Cappello has to drop him as captain surely?
Who should take his place? Gerrard for me even though he has just recently emerged from his misdemeanor (but found innocent in the end). Rooney has too much pressure already for both club and country. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| If Cappello is a any judge of character, he should keep John Terry as captain. |
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itaewonguy

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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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probably DAVID BECKHAM!
I mean come on. he has the most experience..
it just seems the most likely choice.. |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Is this the same character that led him to do what hehas just done?
Anyways im all ears. Why exactly?
For me it has to be Gerrard. He is the vice captain after all.
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| If Cappello is a any judge of character, he should keep John Terry as captain. |
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Jimskins

Joined: 07 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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(I should preface this by saying it is a bit of a rant)
Terry's a wide boy, most of the chelsea lot are, him, Cole, Lampard, and the other London boys going back to Jody Morris and Dennis Wise were always showing there true characters in the late hours. Not England captain material at all. Though I guess most footballers are these days, only in it for the girls and the money.
These kind of players are usually consistent performers but when it comes to the crunch with England cannot be relied on due to the flaws in their character. Its one thing leading your "bread and butter" out on the pitch each week but England is a different matter, it can be viewed by these players as extra-curricular, raising there status/value/wages but thats it, they have no sense of patriotism.
However there are 1 or 2 pretty decent blokes out there who keep their heads down and work and can be relied on.
I'm not a Liverpool fan, but Gerrard should have clearly been England captain for the last 5 years. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ferdinand?! Is he serious? The guy is currently serving a 4 match ban for violent conduct!
Are all English players so lacking in morals that this is the best they could come up with? |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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For me, there is only one choice for England Captain. It has to be Rooney. I wouldn't have said this six months ago, but his game at Man Utd has changed dramatically since CR7 left. He no longer resorts to blustering around the pitch like the hulk on steroids when things are not going his way. He plays withdrawn but somehow still manages to lead the line like a traditional centre forward. He will probably play for England for another 15 years and plays as hard for England as he does for his paymasters.
Gerrard is probably the logical choice for now. But Rooney's promotion to the captaincy, at some stage, is pretty much inevitable. |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Really sad show of suitable captains for England. From the Euro 96 squad you would be happy with Adams, Pearce, Southgate, Platt, Ince, Shearer all captaing your country. Decent blokes and reasonable human beings. (I know that Adams was a bad boy when he was younger but he really reformed his self) |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'd go with a central defender, because they make good captains. Their position on the pitch allows them to see the play and dictate what's going on. Even though I'm a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't say Stevie G. He needs to concentrate on his game and learn some discipline and positional sense first.
On current form, I'd choose Lampard in the central midfield role. He is a much better team player than Gerrard (who tries to be superhero action man all the time).
So, I think Rio could be a good choice for skipper. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Rooney is too much of a livewire and why mess with his head when it looks like he is coming into the form of his life?
Stevie would make the most sense but, in all fairness, does it erven matter that much? Youve got the leaders and theyll stay the leaders, I dont think it makes that much of a difference.
I dont think there is one England player who is morally decent anyway |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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From Senior's link:
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| It is alleged that Terry had an affair with Vanessa Perroncel, the ex-girlfriend of England team-mate Wayne Bridge, also a former club-mate of Terry's at Chelsea. |
Is that it? Having an affair? Since when were soccer players not allowed to have affairs? What the hell am I missing? I must be missing something because this is way out of proportion. If he's lost form, then drop him because, and only because, he's lost form. His private matters are of no intrinsic consequence.
Do the British Press not want us to win the World Cup?
What a vile country. Every libertarian's worst nightmare - economically-socialist and socially-conservative. |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| rusty1983 wrote: |
Rooney is too much of a livewire and why mess with his head when it looks like he is coming into the form of his life?
Stevie would make the most sense but, in all fairness, does it erven matter that much? Youve got the leaders and theyll stay the leaders, I dont think it makes that much of a difference.
I dont think there is one England player who is morally decent anyway |
I agree with your point about leaders. No matter who the captain of a team is, the true leaders always exert authority when it matters anyway.
Rooney has been far calmer this year in my opinion. I can't think of one example of him going off on a red faced tirade at the ref, once this season. |
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pugwall
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I think its more the point that he has disrupted the dressing room than anything else. How can other players trust him or see him as a leader when they are not sure whose wife/GF he would go after next. Maybe thats a bit of an overreaction but if I was in the England team I would have some bad feelings toward him. Nobody is prefect but England captain does come with some responsibilities and this is hardly the first instance involving Barking's finest. |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:50 am Post subject: |
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He has lost the captaincy and rightly so. Agree with the points above that really we need leaders all over the pitch and in Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand, Barry et all I think we have that.
And what's more Ashley Cole may be out of the world cup. But considering he gets paid a 100,000 a week and goes home to Cheryl I'll save my sympathies for elsewhere.
There are actually more contenders then just Bridge: Warnock, Milner, Baines, Barry, Lescott have all been touted. |
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