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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:26 am Post subject: What's your hobby? |
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Do real people actually say this any more, or is it just used in conversation textbooks? Seriously, outside of Korean classrooms, have you ever been asked this question?
I'm trying to get my students to ask questions like:
What are you into? What do you like to do? What do you do for fun? instead of the textbook "What is your hobby?"
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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If I, if *I* were king of the forest... I would make the conversation go like this:
"So what do you do?"
"I'm a student."
"So when you're not busy being a student, what do you do?" |
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grant gerstners
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: hobbies |
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I'm wondering if your thought is that the question, 1. "What are your hobbies"? may sound at least a bit archaic to young ears, and therefore generates a feeling of at least slight awkwardness. If so, I would agree.
Still, one of the chain stores in the USA is called Hobby Lobby and sells a bunch of crafts items for people who engage in various hobbies. Job applications sometimes have a section for "interests and hobbies". Understanding the word "hobby" and it's common usage is appropriate at some point for students learning English.
I prefer the question: 2. "What do you do in your free time?"
Questions 1. & 2. are not completely equivalent, because people do things in their free time that aren't strictly-speaking hobbies (e.g. spending time with family). |
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grant gerstners
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: but to answer |
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Do real people actually say this any more...have you ever been asked this question?
Reply: In my experience, "What is your hobby?" is a rare question.
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I'm trying to get my students to ask questions like:
What are you into?
Reply: Although real people actually ask this question, to "be into" something is non-standard usage. "Into" in my dictionary, is a preposition, but I don't think it has that function in the question "What are you into?"
It would probably confuse non-native speakers to teach this at all, since people and things "go into" a place. Is the usage "be into something", as in "I am into ceramics", best left for learning outside of class; or at least a section on slang and other non-standard usage?
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What do you do for fun?
Reply: I think this question is fine. But I wonder about getting the abstract idea of "fun" across in a way that assures that students really connect it to the concrete experience of "fun" and know what the word really means and how/when to use it. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Depends how you want to teach. If I was in the US and I was teaching students who would go out and actually use the English I taught them outside of class, then I would teach variations.
However, these students are not going to care how to paraphrase stuff unless it's on a test.
I think "What IS your hobby?" is strange because we usually enjoy several things. So, "What ARE your hobbies?" makes more sense to me.
I would rather use this than the annoying "What do you do for fun?" question. This implies you don't live a fun life already and have to do something else to "have fun". I don't know, I am just not into that kind of thinking.
Words like "prefer", "I like to___", "I like (verb) +ing", and "interests" could be taught instead and have practical use in future lessons. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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lifeinkorea wrote: |
Depends how you want to teach. If I was in the US and I was teaching students who would go out and actually use the English I taught them outside of class, then I would teach variations.
However, these students are not going to care how to paraphrase stuff unless it's on a test.
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Exactly. Hence my tolerance for "My ski trip was funny" (instead of "fun") or "I like to play" (I mean, come on, who the F plays after age 10 unless you mean you like to score with multiple partners?)
I help the diehard english learners with this stuff. Otherwise it's in one ear and out the other. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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lifeinkorea wrote:
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I think "What IS your hobby?" is strange because we usually enjoy several things. So, "What ARE your hobbies?" makes more sense to me.
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This is a good point�it is strange�especially in an adult conversation�but for a very different reason�just to �scrub� some humor into this thread.
Everyone secretly knows that the number one hobby the world over is�surfing internet porn�outside of that�really�nothing else even competes with this addictive monopolizing hobby.
If the powers that be ever really did get around to removing porn from the internet�there would be only one website left�and it would be called�www.bringbacktheporn.com.
So of course we have to ask, "What are your hobbies?"
Otherwise, it's just a rhetorical question. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have NEVER heard nor seen the question "What is your hobby?" in my life until coming to Korea and thought it very odd in the singular. The query "What are your hobbies?" has been on a few job applications back home.
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What do you like to do? What do you do for fun? |
Indeed, these are the questions I teach. Along with 'What do you do in your free time?' |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Most Koreans will use English more often with non native English speakers so word choices and phrases that are easily understood are best.
My first two choices would be:
What do you like to do?
What are your hobbies? Never what is.
"What are you in to?" sounds almost too slang and might be common regional communication but not everyone will understand it unless they are a native speaker.
I think that they sound pretty natural when talking to other native speakers.
I don't think:
What do you do in your free time?"
is natural at all. I don't think that I have ever heard this structure between two native speakers.
Native speakers will use it with non native speakers, but I don't think that it is common in natural communication. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I asked a similar question last year. Here are the replies I got:
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raewon
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: question about usage of "hobby"
I've seen something similar to the following in many books:
A: "What's your hobby?"
B: "My hobby is collecting stamps."
I would always ask someone "What are your hobbies?" not "What's
your hobby?" is the latter OK?
What is the correct way to respond if you only have one hobby?
"My hobby is ~" also sounds unnatural to me.
Thanks for any replies that come my way.
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Chungnam:formerly Lower North Island
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject:
Maybe because we are more likely to say:
"Do you have any hobbies?"
And the reply would probably be something like:
"Yes, I like collecting stamps (or whatever)"
Do you have a hobby? Is an EFL type of question and not the kind of thing people usually ask each other
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: question about usage of "hobby"
raewon wrote:
I've seen something similar to the following in many books:
A: "What's your hobby?"
B: "My hobby is collecting stamps."
I would always ask someone "What are your hobbies?" not "What's
your hobby?" is the latter OK?
What is the correct way to respond if you only have one hobby?
"My hobby is ~" also sounds unnatural to me.
Thanks for any replies that come my way.
it's not incorrect, it's simply as jinks points out we're likely to use the plural.
or if in the singular
one of my hobbies is ............
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: question about usage of "hobby"
raewon wrote:
I've seen something similar to the following in many books:
A: "What's your hobby?"
B: "My hobby is collecting stamps."
I would always ask someone "What are your hobbies?" not "What's
your hobby?" is the latter OK?
What is the correct way to respond if you only have one hobby?
"My hobby is ~" also sounds unnatural to me.
Thanks for any replies that come my way.
I make a point of hysterically laughing at students who reply "I collect stamps", and then beat 'em up with their Idiots Guide to Being a Nerd handbook
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:
I had university students in China tell me: "My hobby is sleeping."
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject:
Theo wrote:
I had university students in China tell me: "My hobby is sleeping."
That was a pretty much a universal reply at my university in china....
Although i did have one girl who said her hobby was 'studying'. Sadly, she was the dumbest one in the room....
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:
Don't be so evil, Penguin. I used to collect stamps. My grandfather had several album of rare stamps that are worth quite a bit (he passed and we had them valued).
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject:
jinks wrote:
Maybe because we are more likely to say:
"Do you have any hobbies?"
And the reply would probably be something like:
"Yes, I like collecting stamps (or whatever)"
Do you have a hobby? Is an EFL type of question and not the kind of thing people usually ask each other
Yes, I agree absolutely. I try to teach my students
"So what do you do (in your free time/on the weekend)?"
Instead of
"Do you have any hobbies?"
Simply because in real life if somebody asked me that I would think them a right Gom.
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject:
Collecting action figures and toys can yield interesting investment returns over time, too (a very long time), but collecting them is just as nerdy as collecting stamps. My grandfather, incidentally, had an impressive stamp collection when he died. My grandfather, rest his soul, was about as nerdy as they come.
I always felt collecting things, like porcelain elephants, or merit badges, or comic books, or whatever floats your boat, to be a bit odd.
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject:
No. 1 answer with my female (and some male) students: "My hobby is window shopping!"
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bixlerscott
Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject:
I taught about hobbies and realized the plural and singular forms that automatically come into play are confusing for low level ESL students.
Yes, we commonly say, "What are your hobbies?" You typically don't hear, "What's your hobby?" though it seems to be grammatically correct.
If only one hobby, you can just say, "My hobby is collecting stamps." Plural and singular answers to any questions are automatically understood by anyone with a grasp of English though this is a part of Western culture more so than the language itself making it difficult for Koreans. I'm not picky on the many English mistakes they make, because communication skills and vocabulary is what really matters.
It's like, "What are your skills?"
My skill is English. My skills are English, advanced math, and music. Even with a decent sized vocabulary, I found plurals, verbs, and tenses are some of the most difficult parts of ESL, but yet our understanding of them is easily taken for granted. This is why many people speak simple broken English. This gets rather complex so I myself don't speak correctly all the time when in Korea or other non-English speaking country as to keep it simple to facilitate communication.
Ah, yes, I too have gotten the joke of, "Scott Teacher, my hobby is sleeping." Playing computer games is about the only other answer. LOL.
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: Bupyeong, Incheon
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject:
In Japan, students often said "My hobby is driving".
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject:
Theo wrote:
I had university students in China tell me: "My hobby is sleeping." |
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Troglodyte

Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I would never say "What is your hobby?" It implies that you only have one (and that you indeed even HAVE a hobby). And it just sounds strange to me. At a job interview "What ARE your hobbies?" might be used, but I can't imagine using it in a conversation unless I was on a blind date or something. I think that I more commonly use "What do you do for fun?" or "What do you do in your free time?" or even "Do you have any hobbies?" I think that "What are you into?" is a bit to colloquial and specific to a younger generation, but I don't doubt that any native speaker would understand it. It's just a matter of WHO would say that (i.e. mainly young people). Although I do say "What kind of music are you into?" "What kind of girls are you into?" "What kind of food are you into?" etc. |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Duh
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Come on OP (T). Koreans always prefer whatever garbage they learn from their book.
How are tings on the other side of Asan? |
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