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blahblah1234



Joined: 19 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Korean afterschool positions Reply with quote

Hi, I'm seeing some openings for after school public school positions. The hours usually say like from 12 to 6. The hours seem less and they are still in public schools. I'm a little confused about these jobs like how they differ from regular school jobs. Also, why do they pay the same as a full time job like with hours from 8-5, but have less hours? Thank you, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one

pros-
less hours over all
higher pay rate
better curriculum
more independence
smaller classes
higher level students than regular PS

cons
less vacation
less flexibility with sick leave
more teaching hours
can be isolated
can be dodgy
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one too

It is just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM classes no rest. That is why the hours are shorter. Mine is 11-5
11-12 lesson prep 12-12:50 lunch
12:50-5 is 5x45 classes with a non existant 5 minute break between classes.

To me it is the same work if not a little more than working in a public school where you do alot of desk warming at some schools.

There is alot less repetition in terms of lessons. But with this comes more preperation. Not just making the one lesson and teaching it 10 times.

The books are so so. Every session is the same for me. I get some great books which I like using then I get some trash books that don't teach anything. So instead I have to design extra stuff.

You probably will also be teaching solo. So until you find your own means of discipline it can be rough.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with what blackjack listed, but the curriculum isn't better. You have to choose books like your small hagwon would expect, even if it is run by a larger organization.

They get funded, so that's how they can pay better.

Some negative sides include students coming late for class, leaving early due to hagwon classes, no support from the school, lack of resources, stress of disciplining kids.

When I taught 8:30-4:30, my co-teacher was with me in every class. Here, my co-teacher has her class, I have mine. I don't mind it so much, but at times I would like to say something to the students that need to be translated into Korean. At my previous job, my co-teacher was there and we could do that. My co-teacher is also more independent, so she doesn't like to collaborate on lessons like my previous co-teacher who didn't teach anything. He just translated when needed and kept the kids in line.

The hours are great in my opinion. I get to sleep in, and I finish before the afternoon hagwon teachers. So, it's definitely has its bonus there. I do 25 hours of teaching as opposed to the 22 at a public school and 30 at a hagwon. Some classes are cancelled, so it's not always 25. It's definitely a better trade-off.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
I got one too

It is just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM classes no rest. That is why the hours are shorter. Mine is 11-5
11-12 lesson prep 12-12:50 lunch
12:50-5 is 5x45 classes with a non existant 5 minute break between classes.

To me it is the same work if not a little more than working in a public school where you do alot of desk warming at some schools.

There is alot less repetition in terms of lessons. But with this comes more preperation. Not just making the one lesson and teaching it 10 times.

The books are so so. Every session is the same for me. I get some great books which I like using then I get some trash books that don't teach anything. So instead I have to design extra stuff.

You probably will also be teaching solo. So until you find your own means of discipline it can be rough.


I have the same schedule, but I have set the work computer up so I can access it from home (dropbox and logmein). So I do all my prep work at home and come in just before lunch.

I get to choose the books we use (with some exceptions got pushed into contact 2 way too hard). I tend to stick with the standard ones, lets go english time (parents like them).

My 5 minute break is up
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Pinished



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't get pension and you're probably considered a "Free Lancer" which means the school does not file your taxes. You're suppose to do that each spring I think in May and at a higher tax rate. Some after school programs are supposedly currently being investigated for bribing public school principals.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pinished wrote:
You don't get pension and you're probably considered a "Free Lancer" which means the school does not file your taxes. You're suppose to do that each spring I think in May and at a higher tax rate. Some after school programs are supposedly currently being investigated for bribing public school principals.


I don't get pension (thank god as a kiwi I would simply be making a donation to the korea government). I do pay taxes, 3.3% and I got a nice chunk back as a refund, not sure why, a check showed up at my school and i cashed it in at the postoffice
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bigtexas



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked one as a part time job last year......

Ok, the classes were a joke....

1. the money given to the schools is from the government, and the schools want to keep as much of that money in the bank, so they will spend as little as possible for these programs. Sometimes they even dont give books

2. The classes are MASSIVE. We are talking about sometimes 30-40 students in one class. Now the more the semester rolls on, most students drop out and dont go. So the classes end up being 10 at the end

3. They offer no korean teacher support, or at least I did not have that. So get ready to also speak a lot of Korean to get your class moving in any direction.

4. The books come 3-4 weeks late.........so you have to jump up and down for the first weeks as an entertainer.


But, this was the one I was at. Richer schools put more love into these programs. My part time school is in the country.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The classes are MASSIVE. We are talking about sometimes 30-40 students in one class.


I teach 10 classes, 5 of them each day, alternating with my co-teacher. There is a maximum of 12 students, it doesn't go over that. They decided to make one of the classes a middle school preparation class, but since most of the students are 4th grade and younger I get an hour off every other day.

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They offer no korean teacher support


I would find out the class size first. If there are 15 students or less, you don't need that much support. Again, check to make sure you work with a co-teacher at some capacity.

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The books come 3-4 weeks late


This is good and bad. You don't have anything to start with, but also you may end a book before the end of the course. So, make sure you have lessons with or without the book.
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