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burtonvapor
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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 Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: Any employer who acturally honors contract? |
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Have you ever worked for any employers(hagwon) who actually honored what's written in the contract? If so, could you share the name of the school with me?
It seems so difficult to find a honest employer. |
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paulf
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I am finishing at a hagwon in Nowon-they have followed the contract-and where they have not, it has been in my benefit-PM if you want the info |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Any employer who acturally honors contract? |
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| tigerbeer wrote: |
Have you ever worked for any employers(hagwon) who actually honored what's written in the contract? If so, could you share the name of the school with me?
It seems so difficult to find a honest employer. |
I always love these "all koren hagwons are criminal" baiting questions.
Like this question needs to be asked and confirmed with schools to actually suggest that there are honorable bosses out there. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Any employer who acturally honors contract? |
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| tigerbeer wrote: |
Have you ever worked for any employers(hagwon) who actually honored what's written in the contract? If so, could you share the name of the school with me?
It seems so difficult to find a honest employer. |
True. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| My old hogwan, GDA Junior Seocho, honoured everything in the contract. I've never heard any complaints from anyone else I worked with there either. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Many employers do.
Sadly you will not hear this online because people who are in good jobs (many, many of these by the way) do not feel the urge to discuss it in an online forum...hence the warping effect of forums. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Any employer who acturally honors contract? |
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| tigerbeer wrote: |
Have you ever worked for any employers(hagwon) who actually honored what's written in the contract? If so, could you share the name of the school with me?
It seems so difficult to find a honest employer. |
I prefer not to publicize the name of my school. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Many employers do.
Sadly you will not hear this online because people who are in good jobs (many, many of these by the way) do not feel the urge to discuss it in an online forum...hence the warping effect of forums. |
A good job is one where the owner doesnt steal money from you? Pretty low standards. "Can you believe it? I have a wonderful job. The boss doesnt try to rip me off and he even abides by the contract." |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| conrad2 wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Many employers do.
Sadly you will not hear this online because people who are in good jobs (many, many of these by the way) do not feel the urge to discuss it in an online forum...hence the warping effect of forums. |
A good job is one where the owner doesnt steal money from you? Pretty low standards. "Can you believe it? I have a wonderful job. The boss doesnt try to rip me off and he even abides by the contract." |
In a hagwon, that's high standards.  |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly, this is not to be automatically expected.
Homer is true. Many abide by their contracts. But enough don't that we must be wary and always aware of our rights.
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| conrad2 wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Many employers do.
Sadly you will not hear this online because people who are in good jobs (many, many of these by the way) do not feel the urge to discuss it in an online forum...hence the warping effect of forums. |
A good job is one where the owner doesnt steal money from you? Pretty low standards. "Can you believe it? I have a wonderful job. The boss doesnt try to rip me off and he even abides by the contract." |
In a hagwon, that's high standards. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| conrad2 wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Many employers do.
Sadly you will not hear this online because people who are in good jobs (many, many of these by the way) do not feel the urge to discuss it in an online forum...hence the warping effect of forums. |
A good job is one where the owner doesnt steal money from you? Pretty low standards. "Can you believe it? I have a wonderful job. The boss doesnt try to rip me off and he even abides by the contract." |
Not what I said at all conrad but I was expecting such a dumb reply.
Oh well, it takes all kinds. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Many abide by their contracts. But enough don't that we must be wary and always aware of our rights. |
Exactly. But being aware of your rights means doing your homeworks, understanding what your rights are and standing up for yourself. That should be basic common sense 101 for every teacher out there. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. But some fights can't be won.
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| Many abide by their contracts. But enough don't that we must be wary and always aware of our rights. |
Exactly. But being aware of your rights means doing your homeworks, understanding what your rights are and standing up for yourself. That should be basic common sense 101 for every teacher out there. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Probably 99% of the schools in Korea honor their contracts.
I think there are 40,000 English teachers in Korea (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). We probably hear one bad Hagwon story a week. Not all stories are posted here, so let's pretend one in four dodgy hagwon stories are posted here. By my rough calculation, approximately 200 people a year a screwed over by their hagwon.
200 divided by 40,000 equals 0.005. So every year you have about a half of a percent chance of having some kind of major contract issue with your employer. Feel free to correct my math if you want. |
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curlyhoward
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Probably 99% of the schools in Korea honor their contracts.
I think there are 40,000 English teachers in Korea (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). We probably hear one bad Hagwon story a week. Not all stories are posted here, so let's pretend one in four dodgy hagwon stories are posted here. By my rough calculation, approximately 200 people a year a screwed over by their hagwon.
200 divided by 40,000 equals 0.005. So every year you have about a half of a percent chance of having some kind of major contract issue with your employer. Feel free to correct my math if you want. |
What? What? This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Believe me, your numbers that you've plugged into your equation or way off! |
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