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hockeyguy109
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Daegu
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 Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: GEPIK Next Year: 8:30am-5:30pm?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? |
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This next academic year at my school, the foreign teacher is required to work from 8:30am - 5:30pm everyday. Worst part is that it only equals 22 teaching hours.
This doesn't really affect me because I'm only going to have to be working on this schedule for a week (My contract ends a week after this plan is implemented).
I feel sorry though for the new teacher (who I'm going to have to train for a couple weeks.)
Out of curiosity, is this legal? They are justifying it as 8 hours of work minus 1 hour lunch break but I've never heard of a GEPIK school doing this before. Should I warn the new people when they get here? It probably won't take them long to realize they're being screwed.
Our contract states (Employee shall work eight hours per day including lunch hour for five calendar days per week....)
I'm wondering if including means that the lunch hour is separate or if its included in the eight hours....any thoughts?
The greatest part of this is while I was typing this message, my boss just quit.
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't matter, they can always change the wording in the next contract. So, we have 35 hour weeks from what they are saying. 13 of those hours are not teaching hours, and they feel we need 18 hours.
Sounds like there will also be classes added. Just wait and see. They won't reveal that until new teachers are shipped over. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Check your contract... If it has working hours specified in it (and as a public school it should) tell them to bugger off... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Next Year: 8:30am-5:30pm?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? |
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| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
This next academic year at my school, the foreign teacher is required to work from 8:30am - 5:30pm everyday. Worst part is that it only equals 22 teaching hours.
This doesn't really affect me because I'm only going to have to be working on this schedule for a week (My contract ends a week after this plan is implemented).
I feel sorry though for the new teacher (who I'm going to have to train for a couple weeks.)
Out of curiosity, is this legal? They are justifying it as 8 hours of work minus 1 hour lunch break but I've never heard of a GEPIK school doing this before. Should I warn the new people when they get here? It probably won't take them long to realize they're being screwed.
Our contract states (Employee shall work eight hours per day including lunch hour for five calendar days per week....)
I'm wondering if including means that the lunch hour is separate or if its included in the eight hours....any thoughts?
The greatest part of this is while I was typing this message, my boss just quit. |
The lunch hour is included. However most GEPIK contracts have a clause in there which says you can be asked to work an extra six(?) hours per week. But you should be paid for it. |
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hockeyguy109
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Next Year: 8:30am-5:30pm?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
This next academic year at my school, the foreign teacher is required to work from 8:30am - 5:30pm everyday. Worst part is that it only equals 22 teaching hours.
This doesn't really affect me because I'm only going to have to be working on this schedule for a week (My contract ends a week after this plan is implemented).
I feel sorry though for the new teacher (who I'm going to have to train for a couple weeks.)
Out of curiosity, is this legal? They are justifying it as 8 hours of work minus 1 hour lunch break but I've never heard of a GEPIK school doing this before. Should I warn the new people when they get here? It probably won't take them long to realize they're being screwed.
Our contract states (Employee shall work eight hours per day including lunch hour for five calendar days per week....)
I'm wondering if including means that the lunch hour is separate or if its included in the eight hours....any thoughts?
The greatest part of this is while I was typing this message, my boss just quit. |
The lunch hour is included. However most GEPIK contracts have a clause in there which says you can be asked to work an extra six(?) hours per week. But you should be paid for it. |
The extra six hour part of the clause is regarding teaching hours. They're saying that after 22 hours, there is a chance you could teach an additional 6 hours (but within the allotted day-span).
Has anyone worked more than 8 hours a day under GEPIK (or even EPIK) and been told it's only technically an 8 hour day because of lunch? I'm not ticked because I won't be around to deal with it, just very curious about how it will play out when the new teachers arrive. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Next Year: 8:30am-5:30pm?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? |
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| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
This next academic year at my school, the foreign teacher is required to work from 8:30am - 5:30pm everyday. Worst part is that it only equals 22 teaching hours.
This doesn't really affect me because I'm only going to have to be working on this schedule for a week (My contract ends a week after this plan is implemented).
I feel sorry though for the new teacher (who I'm going to have to train for a couple weeks.)
Out of curiosity, is this legal? They are justifying it as 8 hours of work minus 1 hour lunch break but I've never heard of a GEPIK school doing this before. Should I warn the new people when they get here? It probably won't take them long to realize they're being screwed.
Our contract states (Employee shall work eight hours per day including lunch hour for five calendar days per week....)
I'm wondering if including means that the lunch hour is separate or if its included in the eight hours....any thoughts?
The greatest part of this is while I was typing this message, my boss just quit. |
The lunch hour is included. However most GEPIK contracts have a clause in there which says you can be asked to work an extra six(?) hours per week. But you should be paid for it. |
The extra six hour part of the clause is regarding teaching hours. They're saying that after 22 hours, there is a chance you could teach an additional 6 hours (but within the allotted day-span).
Has anyone worked more than 8 hours a day under GEPIK (or even EPIK) and been told it's only technically an 8 hour day because of lunch? I'm not ticked because I won't be around to deal with it, just very curious about how it will play out when the new teachers arrive. |
Isn't there another clause in there which says the employer can adjust the WORKING hours (as opposed to the teaching hours)? At least there was when I worked for GEPIK. But I left in 2007 so it may have changed since. |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| There is that 'adjust the working hours' clause in the EPIK contract but it still can't be more than eight hours a day Monday to Friday. Just start and finish time really. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like you're working at hagwon
your boss quit?
you'll be training your replacement for several weeks?
this isn't a public school. |
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English Matt
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Cerberus wrote: |
sounds like you're working at hagwon
your boss quit?
you'll be training your replacement for several weeks?
this isn't a public school. |
He stated GEPIK.....you work for GEPIK Bogey, so you know how it works. Many schools have more than one NET and there are often overlaps with the new teacher's arrival date and the old one's departure. My school had two NETs these last 12 months, we're now back to just me, but my replacement will be arriving in a few weeks causing an overlap of around 3 months. After I go the school will only have 1 NET.
By his boss he unlikely means his Principal....I should imagine he means his handler at his school. It's that time of year when teacher's move to other schools. Some teachers at my school were interviewing for other positions at other schools right up until the end of last week.....so it's hardly beyond the pale. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Many schools have more than one NET |
Really? That's a bad situation. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Cerberus wrote: |
sounds like you're working at hagwon
your boss quit?
you'll be training your replacement for several weeks?
this isn't a public school. |
No kidding. "Training your replacement?" Flatly refuse. Not in the contract. |
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mj roach
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: |
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public service regulations....
the old guard tightens the reins on 'the foreigner' |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
sounds like you're working at hagwon
your boss quit?
you'll be training your replacement for several weeks?
this isn't a public school. |
No kidding. "Training your replacement?" Flatly refuse. Not in the contract. |
sorry, but that'd be dumb. Why not train the new guy and build up some new will in the process?
it's a calculated risk if the school doesn't return the good will and is a stickler for many of their silly rules (e.g. signing out to leave school grounds, etc). and if that's the case, then you decide later on how much good will you want to contribute.
i think some schools do have more than one NET but these are very few in number.
if the OP is correct, then he's being asked to work an hour of overtime every single day.
He can use it toward extra vacation time or get 20K won each and every day in overtime. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Many schools have more than one NET |
Really? That's a bad situation. |
A school in my area has two NETs. They are employed under different programs, so have different pay and perks. I understand there is some antagonism between the two. |
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Cerberus
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
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| Many schools have more than one NET |
Really? That's a bad situation. |
A school in my area has two NETs. They are employed under different programs, so have different pay and perks. I understand there is some antagonism between the two. |
even more unusual?
2 different programs? only such combo I can imagine would be one of them being under the old/eliminated two year degree program which I understand is being eliminated for 2010. |
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