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[Ya-ta Boy]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#35431886

Someday we'll get Katy Couric smacking down Brian Williams. We can only hope.

[Senior]

This passes for news/current affairs?

What a disgrace.

[Ya-ta Boy]

Ah, but a review of a book that isn't a review about a book you haven't read is?

"This is a review of Thomas Sowell's new book. The reviewer doesn't actually review the book... Having not read the book myself..."

I do note one bit of consistency: The clip I linked to is 8 minutes and 55 seconds long. You posted 4 minutes after I did. Unless you live in hyperspace, you didn't even watch the clip. Didn't read the book, didn't watch the clip. Yes, consistency.

[Senior]

I watched the first 4 minutes. That was more than enough. I wasn't referring to you posting the item as news. You have the right to post anything you please. It was not a slight towards you in any way. I was referring to the behavior of the folk in the clip.

[Ya-ta Boy]

What's wrong with the behavior of the folk in the clip? It's waaaay past time that someone took on Beck.

Maddow has been on a roll lately. Last week she made a splash by showing a list of the GOP hypocrits who bashed the stimulus then went to their district and touted how many jobs it would create, then she embarrassed that dude from Illinois on Face the Nation for doing it, now she's challenged Beck. These are things the MSM should have been doing all last year.

In an ideal world you would have educated, mature and civil political leaders. We don't live in an ideal world, and never have. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison are in the running for most vicious campaigners in the history of the republic. For better or worse, we have a two party system. The Dems need to get a LOT more aggressive in how they present their message and in taking down the opposition when it acts irresponsibly. It is primarily the administration's job, but it is good that Maddow and Stewart/Colbert lend a hand. The NYT has finally started to show some gumption with their 'Rebellion on the Right' article. They and the rest of the 'responsible' media need to be more active.

[visitorq]

Mindless crap, not even worth the time it took to open up the link.

Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow are nothing but disgustingly overpaid talking heads trying desperately to keep themselves relevant by framing every issue as left vs. right (when it isn't), and then "attacking" each other so their brainwashed audiences will pick sides. In fact these two corporate shills need each other, otherwise they'd both be out a job.

Not only is it not entertaining to watch (unless Glenn Beck acting like a clown, and Rachel Maddow chuckling at her own lame-ass jokes is your kind of thing), it's a just a big distraction. Only someone like ya-ta would take this kind of crap seriously.

[Senior]

[Ya-ta Boy]

Hmmm...at first I thought I should comment on the problem you must have watching Stewart/Colbert, then I realized that is not the real issue. The real issue is that you know Maddow caught Beck out and you don't want to admit it, so you try to change the topic to entertainment vs news.

Carry on.

[Senior]

[visitorq]

[Senior]

[kabrams]

[mises]

I'm not going to watch it.

RM is an establishment progressive. She's fairly good about the banks etc but she is completely unable to understand that there is no money for "social programs". Like it or not, social security/medistuff will not be paid. Full stop. Final answer.

GB is an anti-establishment (though useful for the Republicans) firestarter. He's good on the banks, inflation and the rest. But he has too much fear in him. It makes him seem unhinged. I agree with him that the family is the basis of civilization (not the state). I agree about global warming. I agree with him about inflation, the fed, civil liberties.

Both are useless for any meaningful discussion about the impending funding crisis. RM will not understand that top and bottom vs the middle is killing the country. GB frets about the New World Order and similar.

It is like Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant. Kinda interesting but ultimately pointless.

[ontheway]

Well, having watched the entire clip made by Rachel Maddow, and not being a fan of Beck, it was amazing to find that the clip made by Maddow actually supports Beck's claim that Maddow is a liar.

The quotes from Beck that Maddow showed do not show Beck claiming that there is no global warming and do not show Beck claiming that the snow proves there is no global warming. He does use this winter's record cold and snow to make ironic jokes and to imply that there may be no global warming but he also asserts that one storm proves nothing. She played these clips but apparently she lacks the logical reasoning capacity to understand the totality of the message.

It's true of course that Beck was implying that record cold and snowfall casts doubt on global warming - and it does - but he acknowledges that one storm proves nothing. He knows, of course, that for some less educated and lower IQ members of his audience such an implication will convince them that global warming does NOT exist, but that itsn't what he said.

There is a final irony to this story.

The final irony is that not only do many of Glen Beck's fans lack the reasoning capacity to discern the actual meaning of the commments being made by Beck, it turns out that many of Maddow's viewers also lack the wit to discern the actual meaning, including Maddow herself.


I take it back. Maddow didn't lie - her IQ is so low that intellectual discourse coupled with ironic humor is beyond her ken. She's too stupid to understand the meaning of the words that were spoken.


"My momma says that life is like a box of chocolates."

Gee, yer smart. You shud hav a show on da teevee or da raadio.

[Old Gil]

How does one winter's worth of cold and snow--that happened to fall in heavily populated and media saturated regions of the world--cast doubt on global warming? If you look at the data it's still ridiculously hot in the lesser populated areas of the world, the only thing is that there's no one living there to entice ad dollars.