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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Stand up when teaching? Reply with quote

Questions:
1. Do you stand the entire time while teaching?
2. If not, do you feel obligated to stand if the principal comes in?

I was told that when the principal comes I ought to stand up.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I teach elementary and the kids at the back aren't going to see me, let alone listen if I'm seated.

I would expect to stand up if my principal came in, common courtesy.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sitting down while teaching?
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand up when I teach, but I REFUSE to stand up or bow as a matter of "common courtesy". Sometimes, I stand. Sometimes, I don't. In the end, I decide.

I don't expect anyone to stand for me, but at certain times it makes practical sense.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have smaller classes so it's not such a big issue for being seen or heard. I'll sit on the edge of a desk when we're reading a story. Then I'll usually walk around checking when we're doing work or something else. Maybe I'll sit 10-15 minutes out of 50... Something like that.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see how a teacher could sit during a class. Perhaps for taking attendance or administrative paperwork like quickly checking someone's paper during an exercise.

Teachers need to circulate the room, keep active and create an energy in the class room that fosters participation.

I will rest on the corner of the desk like guantlet, but I am very active in the classroom.

I don't stand up the entire time because some administrator thinks that I should, I stand up because that is what a teacher must do in order to facilitate a classroom. Or if you are in a wheel chair at least center yourself so that you are not behind the desk.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me that the only time a teacher should be sitting would be when there are 4 or fewer students at a table. Otherwise our job requires us to stand, right?
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lost at sea



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
I stand up when I teach, but I REFUSE to stand up or bow as a matter of "common courtesy". Sometimes, I stand. Sometimes, I don't. In the end, I decide.

I don't expect anyone to stand for me, but at certain times it makes practical sense.


What kind of douche bag behavior is this? What comes to my mind is reaching out to shake a person's hand and they simply refuse the gesture. Would you like someone who does that to you?

I see why a lot of people have coworker problems. I assume they would in the states too.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sit down in winter next to the heater
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a hagwon I see absolutely no problem with sitting down, as long as the class is small enough. But at a public school? Are you out of your mind?
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At one of my hogwans, the theory that the school had was that sitting down at a group table with the kids makes them feel more comfortable with you. Even then, I didn't sit down the whole time. Obviously when I was teaching a lesson I would stand at the whiteboard. Also, if the kids were working on something in their workbooks, I would circulate. But if we were reading or just practicing conversation I would sit.

My first hogwan had a totally different theory. We were never allowed to sit. In fact, they took the chair away from the teacher's desk so we could not sit.

At the public school job I am at now, I don't think I have ever sat in class. That just wouldn't make sense with such big classes.


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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lost at sea wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
I stand up when I teach, but I REFUSE to stand up or bow as a matter of "common courtesy". Sometimes, I stand. Sometimes, I don't. In the end, I decide.

I don't expect anyone to stand for me, but at certain times it makes practical sense.


What kind of douche bag behavior is this? What comes to my mind is reaching out to shake a person's hand and they simply refuse the gesture. Would you like someone who does that to you?

I see why a lot of people have coworker problems. I assume they would in the states too.


Seconded. You have to keep this kind of stuff in mind when reading peoples complaints about mistreatment at school. "I'm getting fired for no reason blah blah..."

Not saying that it is always the case but 99% of the time if everybody hates you at your work it is because you are an ass, not because Korean people are crazy.

If these kinds of minor things are the "cultural differences" that make your life here unbearable, you better go crawl back into your mom, because things aren't that different here- making the smallest little adjustments like bowing instead of shaking hands takes care of almost everything. And if you can't handle that you are doomed to failure in whatever try your hand at.

[not talking directly to lifeinKorea, just to those who think that everybody is against them for no reason in general]
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bigtexas



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sitting down? lolololol

A sitting teacher wont survive at any level in any country. Would you want the teacher who is teaching your class to sit down?
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Street Magic



Joined: 23 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sulperman wrote:
Seconded. You have to keep this kind of stuff in mind when reading peoples complaints about mistreatment at school. "I'm getting fired for no reason blah blah..."


Couldn't it also be the case that teachers are still more often fired for financial reasons even though there are apparently a number of teachers who should be fired for performance reasons? Just because there are some teachers with bad attitudes in Korea doesn't mean that these bad attitude teachers are the same teachers who are getting fired. It could easily be a" worst of both worlds" scenario with bad attitude teachers tolerated and good attitude teachers hassled depending on circumstances largely unrelated to their dispositions.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't hear them and they can't hear me if I'm not walking around the room. Some of those hakwon tables can be pretty big. I rarely sit while teaching.
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