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Charter 08: the Foundation of Chinese Liberalism

 
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The Happy Warrior



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject: Charter 08: the Foundation of Chinese Liberalism Reply with quote

ATimes has a detailed piece on the origins of Charter 08

Here is Charter 08 itself.

Charter 08 provides the first framework for a Chinese liberal democratic federal political system. If Tiananmen Square were a Chinese Woodstock, or perhaps better, China's Tea Party, then Charter 08 would be its Declaration of Independence and perhaps the beginnings of its Constitutional Convention. The students at Tiananmen were disorganized and pretty much entirely ignorant about the foundational rights and philosophical principles underpinning Western liberalism. But Charter 08 sets the standard for what liberal activists in China hope to see China become.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to Iran, I don't believe any bottom up reform is possible without approval from the state. The state has far too many violent means to put down any rebellion. This isn't Revolutionary France. The CCP has the ability to crush any movement within hours. Military technology may have rendered revolutions impossible, except those originating from within the military or similar.
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The Happy Warrior



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Similar to Iran, I don't believe any bottom up reform is possible without approval from the state. The state has far too many violent means to put down any rebellion. This isn't Revolutionary France. The CCP has the ability to crush any movement within hours. Military technology may have rendered revolutions impossible, except those originating from within the military or similar.


I largely agree. But as of now there is a working, native Chinese text for a path to a modern liberal state.
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