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Anyone ever get airfare before departure?

 
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Taiwantroll



Joined: 10 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Anyone ever get airfare before departure? Reply with quote

I know EPIK offers airfare reimbursement upon arrival and I am unsure how hagwons operate, but has anyone ever gotten airfare paid before departure?
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone ever get airfare before departure? Reply with quote

Taiwantroll wrote:
I know EPIK offers airfare reimbursement upon arrival and I am unsure how hagwons operate, but has anyone ever gotten airfare paid before departure?


Not airfare money, but they will schedule the flight and pay for it. It might be happening less, but it's something you can reasonably expect from a hagwon. They owe it anyway.

In that case, I let them choose the flight dates and times. Don't be a jerk and say, "Can you move it to the next day or an hour later?". Just take the flight they give you if you really want the job.
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Taiwantroll



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Some hagwons will schedule and pay for the flight? That is, before you have started working?

That's good to know.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwantroll wrote:
Really? Some hagwons will schedule and pay for the flight? That is, before you have started working?

That's good to know.


That's been the norm for years, but since more teachers are wanting to come to Korea schools have tried different ways to screw them. They owe it anyway, but they might try to find teachers who are unaware and then fire them before 6 months claiming they don't owe it.

So, you should really get them to pay for it before you leave your home country. In addition, when you end a year, schools often pay for a flight home and give a couple weeks if you re-sign for a second year. The deal then is that you have to work 1.5 years or pay the second flight money back.

There is no reason why we teachers should operate any differently. When a hagwon wants to hire you, make them pay for the flight. They are going to possibly take out a security deposit, so if they refuse, then another negotiating tool is to tell them to keep the security deposit clause in the contract but not take it out since if you pay for the flight that will be about twice the amount of a security deposit. Then, they would just owe about half of that when you arrive.
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Ibsen



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's pretty standard for the school (hagwon) to buy your plane ticket upfront for you. Of the jobs I was offered before I took the one I currently have, all of them were willing to pay for the ticket upfront if I was to take the job.
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Samanthaeee



Joined: 17 May 2012

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be arriving in Korea in two weeks and my flight was booked and paid for in advance.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone ever get airfare before departure? Reply with quote

Taiwantroll wrote:
I know EPIK offers airfare reimbursement upon arrival and I am unsure how hagwons operate, but has anyone ever gotten airfare paid before departure?


EVERY hagwan that I have worked for has ALWAYS prepaid my airfare.
PS positions have never prepaid my airfare.

I would suggest that waiting for reimbursement from your average hagwan is asking for problems before even get off the plane (typically they choose the exchange rate when it is to their advantage or just plain stall and hope they never have to pay for it).

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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the first hagwon, Reading Town, my school went way above and beyond. They paid for my flight to Korea, and when I left to go to Singapore, they gave me money for the equivalent of a flight to my hometown in the USA. When I told them that the lesser amount, the $350 flight to Singapore would be fine, they insisted on giving me $900 or so.

At my second school, Wonderland Anyang, the most infamous of all Wonderlands, the school prepaid for my flight because it was the only way I'd fly to Korea, but they took months to reimburse an Australian co-worker and an American who was just finishing his contract still hadn't been reimbursed on his flight to Korea. The amount of money the director stole from me would've been enough to cover his airfare. Hopefully she gave the money she stole from me to the other American to cover his airfare to Korea. He had put in a whole year and deserved at least that much. The Australian and I paid our own way out of Korea by pulling long overdue midnight runners within three days of one another.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ironic thing about this is that some of the shadier illegal hagwon "teachers" will accept the flight ticket and then try to disappear into Korea and work somewhere else. It happens all of the time at the airport. It's a shady business, this ESL industry in Korea.
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