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tottenhamtaipeinick
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada
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 Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: better to be fired or quit? |
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| In terms of hassle which is better to do when looking for a new job? I hate my current position and want to look for another job. Someone recently said getting fired is better than quiting out of contract (8 weeks notice is required in contract). Is this true and if so what happens then? How long can I stay in the country for a new job? Visa run etc? |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Getting fired unless the following is true: you have a new set of documents for another visa and a job lined up. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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someone had told me that it's always better getting paid and quitting on the same day is the way to go. make sure you have fresh set of documents so you may do a visa run to japan.  |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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The pros of getting fired have never outweighed the pros of resigning in my experiences. If you force the school to fire you, then they will be less friendly if you want to go to another school.
If you are determined to legally get what's yours and there is a lot of money at stake, then it probably is better to not resign.
For me, schools have given me offers to find another school and have given me adequate time for the transfer (Japan, Korea, and China). I think you should look for this type of scenario. Try to leave on good terms. It doesn't look good on them if they fire and try to replace you. If you "leave", then the story is easier to digest in Asia. They can just make up whatever reason for you leaving to their superiors. Your actual situation is kept hush hush. |
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kimiki
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
The pros of getting fired have never outweighed the pros of resigning in my experiences.
...If you "leave", then the story is easier to digest in Asia. They can just make up whatever reason for you leaving to their superiors. Your actual situation is kept hush hush. |
I absolutely agree with this. Being fired is never good, for the resume or for the spirit. I once deliberately cornered a terrible boss into firing me. I had a good safety net, and ended up going on to a much better situation, but now the words "I was fired" are true for me, and honestly, precious few will listen beyond that to hear how awful the situation was. And even fewer seem willing to believe that after a certain point, I intentionally set it up to happen that way... frustrating.
I really regret it because now I feel compelled to lie about those 6 months of my teaching life and it's just a pain. To my credit, it was an awful situation. To my discredit, I responded not smartly at all. If I could go back and do it again, I would just grin and bear it. I don't know the details of your situation but still, I strongly suggest doing whatever you can to just ride it out, count your blessings, know that it will be over soon & just a lesson learned. Sometimes it seems like we are protecting ourselves but we are actually hurting ourselves because in very stressful situations things can get turned upside-down in our perceptions. Try to "take the long view"-- you might be surprised at your capacity to rise above what you hate about the situation....
Either way, I wish you luck! |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
The pros of getting fired have never outweighed the pros of resigning in my experiences. If you force the school to fire you, then they will be less friendly if you want to go to another school.
If you are determined to legally get what's yours and there is a lot of money at stake, then it probably is better to not resign.
For me, schools have given me offers to find another school and have given me adequate time for the transfer (Japan, Korea, and China). I think you should look for this type of scenario. Try to leave on good terms. It doesn't look good on them if they fire and try to replace you. If you "leave", then the story is easier to digest in Asia. They can just make up whatever reason for you leaving to their superiors. Your actual situation is kept hush hush. |
Maybe you can work a deal with the school. You do something for them and they give you glowing references. I don't know. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| kimiki wrote: |
I once deliberately cornered a terrible boss into firing me.
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Oh yeah? I'm curious; what did you do or say exactly?
I know a woman who tried to quit her job. The day after she handed in her resignation, the boss said, "You can't quit. You signed a contract. Why do you want this school to fail? The parents pay 1,000,000 won a month. There are 13 kids in your class. If all the kids leave, that's 156,000,000 for one year. How will you compensate me?" She decided to stay.
I keep telling her that she should just leave after her next paycheck. I hope that she listens. |
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