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rmo1127



Joined: 01 Jul 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: School hasn't told us which location we're working at yet... Reply with quote

My wife and I have been in contact with Jayeon ESOL School for a few months now, and we finally received contracts today. We are supposed to keep them until the school decides on a couple of the terms. (I have also posted the contract for review in the appropriate thread http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=59265&start=2475 if anyone�s interested.) The two things we�re waiting to hear back about are the salary, which will be either 2.2 or 2.3, and which location we will be working at. The 3 locations are in Bo Jeong, Juk Jeon in Suji, or Dongtan, which is a new city near Suwon.

We won�t be leaving until early July�. is it unusual not to know such major details at this point? Also, does anyone have any experience with this school?

We requested to be placed at the Dongtan location. Anyone else live there? Been there? What do you think of the area?
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Captain Obvious



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wanna konw FOUR months in advance??? What country do you think this is? They might finally let you know four hours in advance.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We requested to be placed at the Dongtan location. Anyone else live there? Been there? What do you think of the area?


You requested to be in an area you don't know about? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Your job is now in the basement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D232RomKsXc
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not unusual to not know these things 4 months out in Korea. I'm surprised that they even lined you guys up so far in advance. Really, everything is desperately last minute here and when I say 'get used to it' I don't mean it in a snide way. I just mean that it'll make your lives easier when you're here. I know it doesn't make sense, if they have people on 1 year contracts then why don't they know when/where they'll need people. But, like I said, things are different here. Personally, I don't like getting into agreements with people who are vague. Practically, that's almost all agreements in Korea. Actually, I'm surprised they didn't just lie to you about the location and then switch it on you upon arrival. I guess that counts for something. Yes, NOT blatantly lying is considered a plus here.

Really, though, you shouldn't feel rushed to find a job in Korea so early. Most jobs are listed at most a month before they start so you're not gaining anything by getting things done early. In Korea, being on top of things is not rewarded. Running around like a chicken with its head cut-off minutes before things need to be done? Yeah, that's more like it.
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rmo1127



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I want to know as far in advance as possible. I don't know how long that normally is though. Please excuse me for not being the fountain of knowledge you must be. I'm posting questions because I'm trying to learn these things.

To the second guy: I know Dongtan is a relatively new city. Based on that, I assume the housing will be newer and more modern than in other areas. I found it on google earth and looked at every picture I could find, and I also spent quite a while trying to find out as much as possible... I couldn't find much in English. I also emailed a Korean friend from college(haven't heard back yet). I know a bit about the city, but I posted on here because I want to learn more. I did like the Milton remix though.


Does anyone have anything helpful or constructive to say?
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rmo1127



Joined: 01 Jul 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. BlackCat wrote:
It's not unusual to not know these things 4 months out in Korea. I'm surprised that they even lined you guys up so far in advance. Really, everything is desperately last minute here and when I say 'get used to it' I don't mean it in a snide way. I just mean that it'll make your lives easier when you're here. I know it doesn't make sense, if they have people on 1 year contracts then why don't they know when/where they'll need people. But, like I said, things are different here. Personally, I don't like getting into agreements with people who are vague. Practically, that's almost all agreements in Korea. Actually, I'm surprised they didn't just lie to you about the location and then switch it on you upon arrival. I guess that counts for something. Yes, NOT blatantly lying is considered a plus here.

Really, though, you shouldn't feel rushed to find a job in Korea so early. Most jobs are listed at most a month before they start so you're not gaining anything by getting things done early. In Korea, being on top of things is not rewarded. Running around like a chicken with its head cut-off minutes before things need to be done? Yeah, that's more like it.


I must have submitted my last post right after you. Thank you for your input. This is our first time doing this, so I guess we're just trying to be as prepared as possible. I've collected all of the documents necessary for our visas except for our passports, which are in the mail.

We came into contact with the school through a friend of a friend here in the US. So far, getting anything done with them has been cumbersome to say the least. However, if you say it's uncommon to have everything set up this far in advance, then maybe they're ok and we're just being impatient. I don't know.

Thanks for the encouragement and honest answers.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah- BlackCat hit the nail on the head

I'd like to add that you may not actually be teaching in those areas. Four months in advance is EXTREMELY RARE which means by the time you and your wife get here, they may find a replacement.

Dongtan is near the army base (I believe) but you pretty much would want to be close to a subway. Osan is to your south, there is a hub of AF personnel, SEAsian workers, mountains, farms, and most importantly, a subway into Seoul.
When they say "new city", it usually doesn't mean things in the city are new. Ilsan is also a new city, however most of it looks just as run down as other places (outside of the Madu/Jeongbalsan area)
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cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out where I was teaching Monday morning at 8:30. My first class was supposed to be at 9. (I had arrived in Korea the weekend before). And I had a job through the Government. Hahah. Is it unusual not to let you know such a major detail. They don't tell you anything until its time. Not to be jerks, but that is the culture here too. My handler finds out things the same time I do.
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rmo1127



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the last two posters, thanks for the input. I thought teachers were only allowed to work at the address listed on their visas... or is that just on the ARC? When and how are ARCs issued?


On a very unrelated note.... ThingsComeAround, do you happen to know which episode of Married with Children your icon is from?
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Cheers Laughing

The Gas Station Show
26 April 1992 (Season 6, Episode 23)
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rmo1127



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't that the one where he suggests a car bra for Peg's mom? Hopefully Hulu's got it. Thanks Smile
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