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Katie26



Joined: 06 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Apartment Seoul-No key money Reply with quote

Hey all,

Looking at teaching in Gangnam, Seoul next year with a housing allowance of 900k. i'll be living with a friend who should have the same so total 1.8million.

For 1.5 million a month would it be feasible to get a 2 bedroom apartment (pretty decent) around this area without key money. Any advice very welcome
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to my knowledge. In 2008 I lived in a 2br in a villa in Daechi-dong. It was 1.2million per month with 10million key money. I don't see how you'd get anything for that much rent with no key money. Your best bet would probably be to go to Haebangcheon or Itaewon. Key money tends to be less there, or you could find someone to share an apartment with who'd already taken care of the key money.

You could also look for someone looking for a room mate in Gangnam. It's possible that the person may not need extra key money. If anyone has found another way to get by without key money in Gangnam I'd love to hear it.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...Seoul (especially Gangnam) + No Key Money = No Apartment
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
Yeah...Seoul (especially Gangnam) + No Key Money = No Apartment


From my experience the exact opposite is true. Gangnam is one of the few places in Seoul where you can get an apartment with a deposit equal to the first month's rent, i.e. 900,000 down, 900,000 a month.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
seoulsucker wrote:
Yeah...Seoul (especially Gangnam) + No Key Money = No Apartment


From my experience the exact opposite is true. Gangnam is one of the few places in Seoul where you can get an apartment with a deposit equal to the first month's rent, i.e. 900,000 down, 900,000 a month.


which is still a deposit..
900,000 down is > 0
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Katie26



Joined: 06 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help/advice. i actually wouldn't mind being in a nearby area Itaewon (up to 1hr commute) etc so advice on those areas would also be great.
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smithy



Joined: 17 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get from itaewon to gangnam in 10/15 mins on the bus and is the only place where you can feasibly get by without key money. you also get a lot more for your money there. im in a sizeable 3-bed apartment in HBC for 1m/month and 1m key money.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katie26 wrote:
Thanks for all the help/advice. i actually wouldn't mind being in a nearby area Itaewon (up to 1hr commute) etc so advice on those areas would also be great.


Within a 1 hour commute (40 minutes or less) you can move out to Bundang and get into a decent 2 bedroom officetel or villa for your money.
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smithy wrote:
You can get from itaewon to gangnam in 10/15 mins on the bus and is the only place where you can feasibly get by without key money. you also get a lot more for your money there. im in a sizeable 3-bed apartment in HBC for 1m/month and 1m key money.
Wow, is that why so many end up living there? That's a great deal.
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sigmundsmith



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you will be working for gangnam district public school?

I ask that because when I went to the interview, Manpal (the guy doing the interview) mentioned to me that there are places in Gangnam without keymoney and that the teachers who work for Gangnam district office (foreign teachers) he could get you intouch with them and they could offer you some advice.

Accommodation websites are not really the best places to go if you want to find places with no Keymoney. You need to go to the estate agent directly and see what deal you can make.

But for two people that much money to spend on monthly rent I would suggest Itaewon or even Hannam dong which is quite close to Gangnam.

I have know of people who moved into Gangnam (not too far from the subway station) and at first they loved it with all the action but soon tired of it. Gangnam is forever busy - Monday to Sunday. So take that into account as well.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:

which is still a deposit..
900,000 down is > 0


yeah, true, 900,000 is a deposit. It is not nothing. however, it is not key money either, which usually starts at 5,000,000 and goes up exponentially from there.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
crossmr wrote:

which is still a deposit..
900,000 down is > 0


yeah, true, 900,000 is a deposit. It is not nothing. however, it is not key money either, which usually starts at 5,000,000 and goes up exponentially from there.


Key money and deposits are the same thing. In some places security deposits are more than 1 months rent. In some places the words are used interchangeably.

The poster seemed to be asking about renting a place with 0 down. Which isn't really going to happen unless its a lower end goshiwon or something.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smithy wrote:
You can get from itaewon to gangnam in 10/15 mins on the bus


er, which bus do you take??? I'd be interested to know.

The 421 takes 25-30 mins, the 730 about the same. I don't know ANY buses that takes 10-15 mins from Itaewon>Gangnam. Even taxis struggle to make 10-15 mins on a good day.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lot of places in Gangnam that offer rooms without Key Money. Most of those rooms are Full Option (you don't need to buy appliances) and they are one-rooms.

You will be hard pressed to find a 2 bedroom with no key money. I've seen a couple, but not too many.

People who say there aren't any just don't know where you look. Go to http://cafe.naver.com/kig

It is a Naver Cafe. That is where most Koreans go to post rooms available for rent. Koreans don't like to pay Budongsan fees, and posting on Peterpan allows them to find someone to rent their rooms, bypassing the Budongsan.

You need someone who can read Korean to help you navigate the site.

Scroll down to "서울직거래*원룸전용"
Expand that link and click on "강남.서초.강동.송파"

There you will find all the one rooms available for rent. Below that category is "서울직거래*방 2,3개). Find 강남 and expand that. There are 2,3 bedroom apartments listed there. As you read through those, you can find some apartments with no key money. Maybe they will be written like 90/90 or 100/110, 80/85. The first number is the deposit, the 2nd is the rent.

So, 90/90 is 900,000w deposit and 900,000w rent per month.

I found my apartment through this site. These are normal renters that post here, so I don't recommend you call them up expecting them to speak English. Get a Korean to help.
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Forever



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Live in Gangnam? Its almost impossible to catch a taxi there after 6pm.

Then when you finally negotiate an "overpriced" fare with a taxi-driver who actually stops - you will most likely be stuck 1 hour in traffic jams.

Good luck!
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