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Anybody ever get in trouble over Dokdo/Sea of Japan?
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mayorgc



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Anybody ever get in trouble over Dokdo/Sea of Japan? Reply with quote

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/03/economist-underestimates-interest-in.html

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Koreans describe their two seas as Western and Eastern, but if others want to call them the Yellow Sea and the Sea of Japan, who cares?


I was on a trip once to the eastern part of the country and we passed through a beach on the East Sea/Sea of Japan.

A very nice older gentleman remarked about the beach/water and I just replied "yes, 동해". But then he replied back "Sea of Japan".

I really don't care about the dispute (other than pointing out how stupid the billboards and advertisements are) but I wondered what would have happened if I corrected him and said "No, it's the Sea of Japan". I didn't do that since nothing good would have come of it.

But has anyone ever gotten into a real life argument over the territorial dispute? Not online but in person.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students made mention of it. I put up a map of Asia once and it said Sea of Japan. They were annoyed and tried to correct me.

Don't draw any huge conclusions based on the testimony of 13-year-olds, of course, I'm just saying it's come up offlie before.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayorgc, I don't get it. Do you mean you said 일본해 first and he "correctted" you? I'd be surprised if an older Korean argued the other side.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayorgc, you should have done the right thing and corrected him. Articles are very important.

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he replied back "Sea of Japan".

I really don't care about the dispute (other than pointing out how stupid the billboards and advertisements are) but I wondered what would have happened if I corrected him and said "No, it's the Sea of Japan".
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mayorgc



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes, I had a brain cramp.

I said Dong Hae and he didn't say "sea of japan". He said "East Sea".
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Introductions Lesson: I showed a PPT map of Korea (minus Dokdo). Heaps of complains from s/s. I had to explain that this wasn't a geo-political lesson - that we were learning Englisheeeee. Case closed.

I've subsequently had Dokdo inserted in my PPT (who needs this nonsense in a classroom?).
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody ever get in trouble over Dokdo/Sea of Japan? Reply with quote

mayorgc wrote:
ht I wondered what would have happened if I corrected him and said "No, it's the Sea of Japan". I didn't do that since nothing good would have come of it.

But has anyone ever gotten into a real life argument over the territorial dispute? Not online but in person.


I don't see how arguing about what a person was taught in school as fact does any good either.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was once almost murdered by a group of Samsung employees when I identified a picture of Dokdo as Takeshima.

I figured they would know I was just joking - boy, was I wrong.
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geldedgoat



Joined: 05 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always have a horrible time keeping my mouth shut about the 독도 issue around my 한국여자친구. I think it may have something to do with me having very little else to do and very few other people to shoot the shit with.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been in Korea 3 years and I have never had an issue with Dokdo. I think some of you guys just fish for it. You cast out Dokdo bait and wait for Koreans to bite.

No Korean has ever asked me about Dokdo. None of my students have ever told me "Dokdo is Korea!". I've taught both Elementary and High School.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost 5 years here and the issue has never come up.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school recently purchased a very large and expensive world map to display in the corridor. On closer inspection I saw someone had tacked on a little square of masking tape in between Korea and Japan. Naturally, I was curious so I removed it to reveal the words, "Sea of Japan".
It's obviously important to some people.
P.s. I replaced the tape, but noticed later on that it had been removed by someone else.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time I've ever had it come up is when something really big happens in the news.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Been in Korea 3 years and I have never had an issue with Dokdo. I think some of you guys just fish for it. You cast out Dokdo bait and wait for Koreans to bite.


True. It's like telling Americans that they deserved 9/11.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Been in Korea 3 years and I have never had an issue with Dokdo. I think some of you guys just fish for it. You cast out Dokdo bait and wait for Koreans to bite.


True. It's like telling Americans that they deserved 9/11.


Yeah, that's a valid analogy...

No, that'd be more like saying "Korean comfort women were not slaves, just women with low morals."

Try that one.

Or perhaps "Korea would've been better off had it stayed under Japanese occupation."

A couple of rocks and the name of a sea, in ENGLISH (they can call it whatever they want in Korean, but they shouldn't try to dictate English geography in my opinion), shouldn't be such a pride issue.
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