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shelleyR



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Female in an all boys high school Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I have been offered an all Boys Public High School position. I am a female with no HS experience. I only have Elementary Level experience. I was old they only want a female teacher for this job. Has anyone had this experience before? What is it like with an all boys HS? Are most of the co-teachers male?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the high school is public, most likely there will be more female teachers maybe a 60/40 split or more. If it's one of those private-public schools, good chance that 80% or more teachers will be male, but it depends on who did the hiring at that school.

I've worked in a private boys' middle school with a boys' high school on the same campus. Out some 80 teachers only 5 were female (not including the nurses and secretaries). These private schools tend to favor hiring former students and home-towners.
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vaticanhotline



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar situation, but I'm a man working in a girls school. There are more male than female teachers at my school though. I know some other people who teach at single sex schools, and they're generally women at a boys school or men at a girls school, although there are, obviously, exceptions.
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shelleyR



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jvalmer: it is a regular public HS not private


vaticanhotline: how do u find teaching all girls? How are the students? How are the teachers towards you? And are they generally young teachers or older?

So how big are your classes? Are the smaller at your school as it is not co-ed?
What do you teach? Do you follow a text book? Do you teach the whole 50 min class? How many times a week do you see the same class?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shelleyR wrote:
Jvalmer: it is a regular public HS not private

vaticanhotline: how do u find teaching all girls? How are the students? How are the teachers towards you? And are they generally young teachers or older?

So how big are your classes? Are the smaller at your school as it is not co-ed?
What do you teach? Do you follow a text book? Do you teach the whole 50 min class? How many times a week do you see the same class?



Everything depends on the school. But generally it is as follows:

If it's a public HS my guess it will favor female teachers slightly. The ages of the teachers will range from fresh out of university to days from retiring. Undesirable locations (rural areas/bad schools) will be higher on the younger side.

If you're in a big town or city the class sizes will be between 30-40 or more. The most I've heard of was 45 students. The genders of the school won't have an impact on class sizes. The classes will be pretty big if you're in or near a sizable city. Out in the provincial rural areas classes can get small, really really small. If it's an academic school you will probably only teach the 1st and 2nd year students and rarely or never teach the seniors, but that depends on the school. As for how often and how they want you to teach, that all depends on the school.
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shelleyR



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx�

What about dress code? Are jeans ever allowed at a HS?
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vaticanhotline



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shelleyR wrote:
Jvalmer: it is a regular public HS not private


vaticanhotline: how do u find teaching all girls? How are the students? How are the teachers towards you? And are they generally young teachers or older?

So how big are your classes? Are the smaller at your school as it is not co-ed?
What do you teach? Do you follow a text book? Do you teach the whole 50 min class? How many times a week do you see the same class?


It's not incredibly difficult teaching all girls-it's an academic high school and they tend to be quite well behaved, although that said it can be difficult to keep all of them interested for the whole class. Most of them are very friendly as well-say hello to you on the street, etc. (although that can get a bit unnerving, especially when you're walking down the street at 9 in the evening and one of them shouts "I'm sexy girl!" at you).

The other teachers are great, really friendly for the most part and largely willing to try to speak to me, although their level of English and my level of Korean is abysmal (mostly my Korean). The vast majority of them are older teachers, in their foties to fifties.

There are at least 35 students in each class I teach, and I only teach 1st and 2nd grade; the 3rd grade are too busy craming for their SATs to be frivolously engaged in speaking English. I don't follow a text book (although that might not be the case for everyone), which can be difficult at times and make my classes seem a little bit disorganised in terms of progression. I do teach the whole fifty minute class and I see each class once a week, although there are after school TOEFL classes for the more advanced students as well.

EDIT: There's no specific dress code that I've heard of (although my co-teacher told me when I arrived that I should dress smart), but I always wear a suit. None of the Korean teachers ever wear jeans, and the men are usually smart casual at the least, so I think it's better for me to dress as smart as possible. As far as I'm concerned, it's a personal choice, and I don't disagree with anyone who chooses not to wear a suit.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shelleyR wrote:
Thanx�

What about dress code? Are jeans ever allowed at a HS?


Sure. But wear at least a shirt with a collar or polo shirt with jeans.
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warmachinenkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife taught at an all boys MS, that I am currently the teacher, which is connected to the Gyeongbuk Automobile HS. The boys here have no respect for anyone it doesn't matter if they are male or female. There are days I think my co-teacher will rip her hair out. I'm treated with some respect because they think I'll cut their head off. I'm a large guy and they are somewhat catious of me. My wife had a difficult time as do all the female teachers(90% of teacher). I also teach at an all girl's MS and it is the best job anyone could ask for. I have been there almost 2 years and have yet to have a single problem. I have total control over teaching material and the girls really try very hard at whatever we do.

I knew a guy who taught at the an all girl's HS and MS. He had it pretty good. Hardly any trouble with the kids. He was an aquired taste kind of person though. If he had been in a different PS he would have left Korea after his first contract.


I think it depends on the school. If the principal and VP are hardcore and set the tone then you won't have any trouble. If they're like mine, well it's chaos, a dirty school, and co-teacher that are on the brink of a nervous breakdown.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think public schools like to but an opposite gender GET in single sex schools. I've taught in a private/public all girls MS & HS - and I'm currently at an all girls public MS & HS. But who knows, it could be my age - there's definitely no chance of girls falling in love with this old guy (ha).

Teaching all girls, is easy for me. In the past I've found that, generally, all girls have better manners, more co-operative, and aren't violent. They're also more heavily socialised to help older teachers/males. For this year, however, time will tell.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for unruly boys at an all boys school. I've notice there is a big difference between the public schools and the private schools. The public schools usually have a lot more females than males, and most of the the time female teachers are just not strict enough. While at private schools, often the male/female ratio is heavily in favor of the males and they really come down hard on unruly boys. Which really helps cut down on disruptive classes.

And it is much easier teaching all girls than boys.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:


And it is much easier teaching all girls than boys.


Amen!
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katsu



Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: teaching in an all boys highschool Reply with quote

so is there a korean teacher with you in the classroom? what is their job, as it seems that you are the main teacher and not the assistant like in gepik?

is it safe for a female to teach at an all boys highschool? the korean kids/boys seem very aggressive (i've been looking at some youtube videos)...

do they actually listen to female teachers? or are they more likely to listen to male teachers?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Unfortunately it always depends on the school.
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missty



Joined: 19 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach with SMOE in an all girl's High School. This is my second year, and for both years I have taught only high school girls although they have been at different schools.

One of the reasons for leaving my first school? Well, it was a Girl's High School and they wanted a male teacher. The girl's really loved the guy who taught before me, (he wasn't with SMOE) and the VP really wanted a male to teach.

However, SMOE was against this. They don't want males teaching in an all girl's school, and they didn't want me (a female btw) teaching in a male high school. They mentioned that the boys would be immature, and that high school girls can develop crushes, and the woman who interviewed me was really uneasy about it. I think she was insinuating teacher-student relationships.

Personally I wouldn't want to teach in a male High School. All girl's is just sooo much better!
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