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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: One word..."YIKES!!!" Reply with quote

I love Korea and have learned to deal with the day-to-day hassles most of us have to endure. I've been here for years, but there are days I just think I will never, ever understand this culture...


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&e=4&u=/nm/20040325/od_nm/baby_dc
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Kristsoy



Joined: 23 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: here's my question about this Reply with quote

clearly she lied to police about not wanting her bf to find out. How did she hide it from him for 9 whole months?



SEOUL (Reuters) - A newborn baby boy survived a four-floor fall after his 27-year-old mother threw him out of a motel window soon after giving birth, South Korean police said on Thursday.



The baby was recovering in hospital with a fractured leg after the incident, which took place in the early hours of Tuesday, a policeman said by telephone from Ansan near Seoul.


The Korea Times newspaper reported a shop sign broke the baby's fall after the mother threw him out the window because she did not want her boyfriend to find out she had given birth to another man's child.


The mother was also receiving medical treatment, the daily said.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe she just told the b/f she was getting fat????
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thought, which would the man be more angry about- the cheating, or the weight gain?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kristsoy,

Please copy and paste in an appropriate and efficient manner.

You may find my latest volume interesting and informative.
How to Copy and Paste Without the Burden of Sharing Your Opinion
or wait for the summer volume of
Copy and Paste: The Real Reality Story

Wink


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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater but there seems to be nothing distinctly Korean about the news story.

If we're judging a culture by such stories then America and Britain are the scariest of all. Didn't you used to read Max Haines' "Crime Flashback" articles in the newspapers?

Crimes of jealousy and fear are commonplace, and by new mothers OFTEN. Doctors have an English name for the condition (can someone recall it?).

Sad but true.
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: here's my question about this Reply with quote

Kristsoy wrote:


...after the mother threw him out the window because she did not want her boyfriend to find out she had given birth to another man's child.


The mother was also receiving medical treatment, the daily said. [/b]


I assume the b/f knew she was pregnant. He probably assumed it was his, but perhaps the woman felt that he would know it wasn't his once he saw the baby.

Regardless...what possesses a person to throw a newborn out a window, no matter what the circumstances are?

BTW, I'm not looking for an answer. I will never understand this....


An even more than usual, Confused Canadian
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater but there seems to be nothing distinctly Korean about the news story.

If we're judging a culture by such stories then America and Britain are the scariest of all. Didn't you used to read Max Haines' "Crime Flashback" articles in the newspapers?

Crimes of jealousy and fear are commonplace, and by new mothers OFTEN. Doctors have an English name for the condition (can someone recall it?).

Sad but true.


I'm not denying that this sort of thing happens in other countries around the world...maybe I'm just having a bad "Korea Week".

In the past few days, I've read about the guy they fished out of the Han River (supposedly killed himself to "save face"), the group of 20 somethings that apparently committed group suicide in Suwon, and then this story. It seems to me that Koreans find death/suicide to be the "simple solution" to almost any problem.

Of course, I'm not suggesting that you can't find examples of this in other cultures, but it seems awfully common in Korea. How many people committed suicide during the IMF? What about the poor students that commit suicide around the time of the university entrance exam?

Like I said, maybe I'm just having a bad "Korea Week". Crying or Very sad

Confused Canadian
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kind of incident is pretty rare here- usually the woman gets an abortion, so I wouldn't connect it with Korean culture at all. That said, this kind of behaviour is not something I want to understand, as I suspect it's one of those things that you have to experience to fully grasp.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be way out of line here but I'm thinking it's possible the baby did not look as korean as it should have done.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"she did not want her boyfriend to find out she had given birth to another man's child."

There my be much more shame and disgrace placed on the woman in Korea.

Misattributed paternity
10-15% is usually taught to medical students
10% is widely used in DNA studies and quoted in standard genetics textbooks
30% from Dr. Elliot Philipp's remark at a 1972 symposium about a study on correlations between antibody formation and blood group.
20-30% from Liverpool Flats study (McLaren HC, cited in Cohen J. Reproduction London: Butterworth,1977)
5% from abortion rate study between couples with compatible and incompatible blood types. Used ABO and Rhesus markers.
http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/analysis_and_opinion/choices_and_behaviours/misattributed_paternity.htm

Mommy's little secret
The Wise verdict has become a flashpoint for men who discover that their children are not their own. Many are actually eager to find out, ordering paternity kits over the Internet. (The American Association of Blood Banks reports that 30 per cent of men who suspect they are not biological fathers are right.)
http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.htm

A 1999 study by the American Association of Blood Banks showed that, out of more than 280,000 tests for paternity at accredited labs in the United States -- most of them done in child support cases -- 28 percent excluded the man as the father.
Paternity case may guide how courts treat DNA
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/4845937.htm
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Seoultrader



Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsk tsk...sheesh, how rude considering that coat hangers are sooo cheap here....
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Falstaff



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Location: Ansan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:

Crimes of jealousy and fear are commonplace, and by new mothers OFTEN. Doctors have an English name for the condition (can someone recall it?).


It's called Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. Really nasty stuff, very difficult to treat. WebMD has some good stuff on it.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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because she did not want her boyfriend to find out she had given birth to another man's child.


Can we say foreign father?

Now, which poster could be the father?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>>The mother was also receiving medical treatment, the daily said.<<

Please tell me this is a misprint or bad translation. Shouldn't it read psychological treatment?
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