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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: Orang-eeeee! |
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Today my main coteacher was out on her "day off day," so I had a different teacher come in to assist me with my lesson. He clicked the powerpoint presentations, and was generally great. I didn't even need him to help discipline the kids. Why?
These kids will do anything for mandarin oranges! When nobody volunteered to tell me how they were today (including reason: I'm busy because I have homework/I'm great because today I have 4 classes), I called on a student by number, and he answered correctly. When I asked for another volunteer and got one, after, she got an orange. They were all REALLY motivated after that!
I had 4 of them on the one-step-up stage with me to do 5 little monkeys jumping on the bed (the rest of the class did the hand motions and sang while we danced and jumped off and I bopped them on the head with oranges they were to receive) as a second warm up.
We did some CD work (the bare minimum--I hate that thing) then an original ppt game that corresponds with the lesson. I had them cheering and jumping out of their seats to answer questions. I love this job. |
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espoir
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lol sounds like a dream class. BTW what age do you teach? |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| espoir wrote: |
| lol sounds like a dream class. BTW what age do you teach? |
bet it's elementary or beginning of middle school.
but an orangee would work wonders for high schoolers as well.
especially tekkies like you have, but it's way more expensive than
CAN-DEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Elementary school 
Yeah, I wouldn't want to spend the money every day, but as a once-every-week-or-so treat, 5 bucks isn't going to break the bank.
I also had an excuse to review a vs an.
A orange? NOOOOO
An orange? YEEEES
I use "umnida" vs "ubnida" as an example.
A orange: Does that sound good? NOOO! UGLY SOUND! Like ubnida!
An orange: Beautiful sound! Like umnida!
Then I use a few different nouns like apple, elephant, carrot, etc. Like I said: Great kids! |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal wrote: |
Elementary school
Yeah, I wouldn't want to spend the money every day, but as a once-every-week-or-so treat, 5 bucks isn't going to break the bank.
I also had an excuse to review a vs an.
A orange? NOOOOO
An orange? YEEEES
I use "umnida" vs "ubnida" as an example.
A orange: Does that sound good? NOOO! UGLY SOUND! Like ubnida!
An orange: Beautiful sound! Like umnida!
Then I use a few different nouns like apple, elephant, carrot, etc. Like I said: Great kids! |
Your post brings up an interesting point, oranges aside...
Why is there no damn section in this useless curriculum/CD-Rom that deals with vowels????? I mean sure, they're the backbone of the English (and many other) language... But nope, let's teach the kids "Don't take off your shoes, we don't take off our shoes in the house" instead... Ohhhh Korea... And you wonder why you have to send your kids to a Hagwon...  |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| egrog1717 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal wrote: |
Elementary school
Yeah, I wouldn't want to spend the money every day, but as a once-every-week-or-so treat, 5 bucks isn't going to break the bank.
I also had an excuse to review a vs an.
A orange? NOOOOO
An orange? YEEEES
I use "umnida" vs "ubnida" as an example.
A orange: Does that sound good? NOOO! UGLY SOUND! Like ubnida!
An orange: Beautiful sound! Like umnida!
Then I use a few different nouns like apple, elephant, carrot, etc. Like I said: Great kids! |
Your post brings up an interesting point, oranges aside...
Why is there no damn section in this useless curriculum/CD-Rom that deals with vowels????? I mean sure, they're the backbone of the English (and many other) language... But nope, let's teach the kids "Don't take off your shoes, we don't take off our shoes in the house" instead... Ohhhh Korea... And you wonder why you have to send your kids to a Hagwon... |
I made a chart that shows the vowel sounds in Hangul. I even explained the 2 sounds that don't exist in Korean (short I and short A), and how mixing 2 of the existing sounds (they get married and have a baby) makes them.
short long
A * 애이
E 에 이
I ** 아이
O 아 오
U 으 우
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아 + 에= cat, hat
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이+ 에= hit, sit
This works pretty well, though they still often get the 2 vowel sounds wrong. I explained that that bit and beat are two different words, though to them they sound the same. I then pretended to bite one student and beat the other. They giggled and got it.
EDIT: The chart looks off, but it's much neater on excel. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal wrote: |
I made a chart that shows the vowel sounds in Hangul. I even explained the 2 sounds that don't exist in Korean (short I and short A), and how mixing 2 of the existing sounds (they get married and have a baby) makes them.
short long
A * 애이
E 에 이
I ** 아이
O 아 오
U 으 우
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아 + 에= cat, hat
**
이+ 에= hit, sit
This works pretty well, though they still often get the 2 vowel sounds wrong. I explained that that bit and beat are two different words, though to them they sound the same. I then pretended to bite one student and beat the other. They giggled and got it. |
I've done the same thing, plus I'll throw in English characters mixed with Hangeul if it can't be pronounced using Hangeul. Like f+라이. Though I try to avoid it since I've heard that it's best to have them just memorize the English word plus pronunciation. |
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wallythewhale
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| My all time favorite from the principal, "LUNCHEEEEEEEEE!" That's all he knows. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Using Hangeul is a crutch. The same as using english letters to write korean words.
Hangeul cannot perfectly match the wide variety of vowel sounds in English, no matter how you try to jam them together, the same way that English letters cannot properly reflect Korean sounds due to the the ways different people may interpret them based on where they are from or what langauge they think the word might be coming from.
If you shove hangeul in front of the kids they're going to think in Korean. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
Using Hangeul is a crutch. The same as using english letters to write korean words.
Hangeul cannot perfectly match the wide variety of vowel sounds in English, no matter how you try to jam them together, the same way that English letters cannot properly reflect Korean sounds due to the the ways different people may interpret them based on where they are from or what langauge they think the word might be coming from.
If you shove hangeul in front of the kids they're going to think in Korean. |
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These are elementary kids. It's helped a great deal. Sometimes they just can't hear the difference between vowel sounds without this "crutch" at first. Now they say animal instead of enimal and hit instead of heat. I don't see a problem with this. My pronunciation is as clean as possible, but sometimes they need a little boost. I don't write whole words out, but a vowel chart is useful. I hardly expect them to be able to use the phonetics chart! |
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Grantasmagoria
Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Good work but yeah, agreed on the Hangeul. My co-teacher wrote one of A's vowel sounds on the board in Korean today, I cringe when a one syllable sound turns into two. Similar to how my name becomes 3 when it should be one.
I still find it weird that K-teachers are so quick to use Korean in lower level classes (alright, some is necessary concerning discipline and explanations) but every Korean book or class I've taken throws you right in with little to no English. Especially no English when studying the Korean alphabet. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Grantasmagoria wrote: |
Good work but yeah, agreed on the Hangeul. My co-teacher wrote one of A's vowel sounds on the board in Korean today, I cringe when a one syllable sound turns into two. Similar to how my name becomes 3 when it should be one.
I still find it weird that K-teachers are so quick to use Korean in lower level classes (alright, some is necessary concerning discipline and explanations) but every Korean book or class I've taken throws you right in with little to no English. Especially no English when studying the Korean alphabet. |
I don't love using hangul, but when I do show them 2 sounds, I tell them to say it quickly so it's only one. It works, and their pronunciation is great.
I make my lessons in English, and use loads of mime. When completely necessary, I have my coteacher translate into Korean, but only after trying a few times. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pleasantly surprised....thought this was going to be another whiny/bashing post about how Korean's speak English.
NYC_Gal, you know your stuff. Thanks for passing on new ideas for teaching pronunciation. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Well done NYCGal.
Use of Hangul for specific cases is quite effective. This sounds like a very good lesson that got the students interested. The use of Hangul in such a case also makes for a great attention grabber for the students. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks
Of course, now I've got kids asking me for oranges constantly. I haven't been able to have one of the 2 I pack in my lunch daily, the kids are just so darn cute! |
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