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sesyeux



Joined: 20 Jul 2009
Location: king 'arrys

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: names on all documents don't match.. Reply with quote

..exactly that - i'm in a bind:

my passport has joe john bloggs
my CRC has joe john bloggs
my transcripts have joe john bloggs
my degree certificate has joe john JAMES bloggs

from what i've read this is going to pose a real problem with KImmi..
the uni will not reprint my degree.

anyone have any recent experience with this kind of issue?
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i kind of have a similar problem to you, my CRC, Passport and degree all include my middle name, while my transcripts dont.

I'm hoping its not a problem, though I have heard that someone in the FAQs section of these boards had a problem similar to yours. extra name on the degree. he had to get the university to actually send a letter out stating that he was the owner of the degree.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same problem with my baptism name. They kept on asking for certificate of name change when my name wasn't actually changed. My name is (Korean Surname)-(Baptism name)-(Korean-First Name). However, since there aren't any slots for middle names in Korean forms, my parents didn't bother to put my baptism name in. When we went to overseas, we used more convenient baptism names. (Not all documents overseas bothers to print middle-names either, in this case our Korean names) So, most of my docs from overseas had Baptism-name Surname but my Korean registry had Surname Korean-First Name. Hence the demand for name change certificate. I have to show an identity card with picture and my full name on it and explain that missing middle name is just clerical laziness.

OP: what does your birth certificate say? If it's same as your degree then you could explain it as not enough spaces on forms.
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sesyeux



Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my birth certificate says joe john bloggs..the only document that has both middle names is my degree!

i've done a bit of reading around and maybe i could get my uni to issue a letter stating that i did attend during those times and that in fact the degree is issued to the same person as the transcripts state..

it just seems a very messy situation, i don't know how to proceed
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hwarangi



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name on my degree is different - only because my name is very long. But I've never had any problems.
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gunners girl



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a similar problem except I've got three different names on the go.
Degree and transcripts have first name, middle name, surname (so at least they match).
Passport has first name, two middle names, surname.
Then my CRC and references just has first name and surname.

Not really sure what to do about it all...
Do you think I should get another CRC check with one of my middle names put in? But then my passport would still be different... Argh, it's so frustrating!

Am I right in thinking that it's pot luck whether it causes problems with the visa people?
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sesyeux



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i've read it is completely pot luck.

you might get someone who doesn't mind/care, sure i can see that you are the same person, off you go.

but then as [if not more i reckon] likely, you can get someone who woke up on the wrong side of the bed, tells you that they don't match, so no entry, and all your stuff is on the other side of the world with no sort of way around it.

i have no idea what to do.
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunners girl wrote:
I've got a similar problem except I've got three different names on the go.
Degree and transcripts have first name, middle name, surname (so at least they match).
Passport has first name, two middle names, surname.
Then my CRC and references just has first name and surname.

Not really sure what to do about it all...
Do you think I should get another CRC check with one of my middle names put in? But then my passport would still be different... Argh, it's so frustrating!

Am I right in thinking that it's pot luck whether it causes problems with the visa people?


I imagine at the very least your references will be fine as it should be your employer that gets them rather than the cantankerous immigration.
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gunners girl



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JD_Tiberius wrote:
gunners girl wrote:
I've got a similar problem except I've got three different names on the go.
Degree and transcripts have first name, middle name, surname (so at least they match).
Passport has first name, two middle names, surname.
Then my CRC and references just has first name and surname.

Not really sure what to do about it all...
Do you think I should get another CRC check with one of my middle names put in? But then my passport would still be different... Argh, it's so frustrating!

Am I right in thinking that it's pot luck whether it causes problems with the visa people?


I imagine at the very least your references will be fine as it should be your employer that gets them rather than the cantankerous immigration.


Thanks JD_Tiberius.
It's actually getting to the point where I just want to curl up into a little ball and silently weep. Everytime I think I've got something sorted, another unexpected yet incredibly irritating problem pops up. It's almost like they don't want us English teachers to make it over there at all......!
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So wait your legal name has JAMES in it, but you have left it out of your main documents?
or

Your name does NOT have James in it and your degree is a misprint?

If its the former whyin the heck do your PASSPORT and other legal documents not have your full name?

If its the latter, your school screwed up and you get your degree re done

Pretty sure you have already confirmed the former, so all I have to say is I dont even know how you got your passport without your full legal name in the first place.

Youd have to ask what can be done. Not sure what advice you want from us
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sesyeux



Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulio wrote:
So wait your legal name has JAMES in it, but you have left it out of your main documents?
or

Your name does NOT have James in it and your degree is a misprint?

If its the former whyin the heck do your PASSPORT and other legal documents not have your full name?

If its the latter, your school screwed up and you get your degree re done

Pretty sure you have already confirmed the former, so all I have to say is I dont even know how you got your passport without your full legal name in the first place.

Youd have to ask what can be done. Not sure what advice you want from us



my name does NOT contain james.
like i said, only the certificate has this, nothing else in my life has this mysterious other middle initial.
long story short, it wasn't noticed on graduation, the uni says that because its 12 months + they can only reprint what they have on file - which is with the erroneous name.
i've tried pleading, explaining..nothing. how the hell they got this other name from i've no idea.
but whatever, they're not willing to admit they screwed up, and i can't do anything about it apparently.
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well a couple things

1) How did you notice your name was wrong at Graduataion or shortly thereafter

2) your name is wrong either way, and whether it was just after graduation or Now the result is the same a New degree would need to be printed

3) your degree name IS NOT YOURS, in other words your University issued a degree to someone who didnt do the work, and technically doesnt exist, while you DO NOT have a degree for the work you did.

The university MUST give you a degree that matches your legal name.

Get the president of the University on the Phone for Gods sake.

They are feeding you a line of Crap

BUt yes I think they are basically saying you are stupid for not noticing your name was wrong, and trying to get out of doing something that legally they would have to do.

Tell them you will hire a lawyer as you studied for X years and DID NOT get a degree.
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sesyeux



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, the short version -
finished exams, graduated, went travelling straight after.
the certificate was sent home whilst i was gone.
i didn't get back for 12 months, in which time my family had moved home. my old man couldn't find it. no worries, it's here somewhere, it'll turn up. didn't need it, so didn't worry about it.
moved city to work, went travelling again, got back feb this year.
family had moved again, definitely no sign of certificate. want to go to korea and figure i need one, get in touch with the uni, get them to send a replacement...here we are.

ridiculous i know, but thats what happened.

i've just been on the phone to someone again, they said the secretary or whoever will ring me on monday, they're out the office today.
i guess i'll see what they say and then try to strongarm them - i don't know how the legal angle will fly in yorkshire but i'll give it a shot!
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't get them to change the name, at the very least you have to get them to write a letter explaining why they fudged up
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sesyeux



Joined: 20 Jul 2009
Location: king 'arrys

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just an update, not that anyone really is that worried about my situation - went to the university today IN PERSON [v. important] and in an apparently unprecedented move, they've agreed to change my degree/transcripts so everything matches. success!
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