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madoka

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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: TV Psychic to be beheaded for witchcraft |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_saudi_witchcraft
The lawyer of a Lebanese TV psychic who was convicted in Saudi Arabia for witchcraft said Thursday her client could be beheaded this week and urged Lebanese and Saudi leaders to help spare his life.
Attorney May al-Khansa said she learned from a judicial source that Ali Sibat is to be beheaded on Friday. She added that she does not have any official confirmation of this. Saudi judicial officials could not be immediately reached for comment.
A Lebanese official said Beirut has received no word from its embassy in Riyadh about Sibat's possible execution. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
The Saudi justice system, which is based on Islamic law, does not clearly define the charge of witchcraft.
Sibat is one of scores of people reported arrested every year in the kingdom for practicing sorcery, witchcraft, black magic and fortunetelling. These practices are considered polytheism by the government in Saudi Arabia, a deeply religious Muslim country.
Later Thursday, a dozen people demonstrated near the Saudi embassy in Beirut's western neighborhood of Qureitim. Four of the men wore masks to look like executioners and carried a wooden gallows with a cloth bag hanging from it.
One of the men carried a small banner that read in Arabic: "Don't kill."
Al-Khansa said she has called upon Saudi King Abdullah to pardon Sibat, a 49-year-old father of five. She also says she is in contact with Lebanese officials about the case.
She added that Sibat did not make predictions in Saudi Arabia and was neither a Saudi citizen nor a resident in Saudi and therefore should have been deported rather than tried there.
Sibat made predictions on an Arab satellite TV channel from his home in Beirut. He was arrested by the Saudi religious police during his pilgrimage to the holy city of Medina in May 2008 and sentenced to death last November.
"Ali is not a criminal. He did not commit a crime or do anything disgraceful, " al-Khansa said. "The world should help in rescuing a man who has five children, a wife and a seriously ill mother."
She added that Sibat's mother's health has been deteriorating since her son was sentenced to death.
New York-based Human Rights Watch said last year that Sibat's death sentence should be overturned. It also called on the Saudi government to halt "its increasing use of charges of 'witchcraft,' crimes that are vaguely defined and arbitrarily used."
Last year, the rights group presented a series of cases in the kingdom, including that of Saudi woman Fawza Falih, who was sentenced to death by beheading in 2006 for the alleged crimes of "witchcraft, recourse to jinn (supernatural beings)" and animal sacrifice.
On November 2, 2007, Mustafa Ibrahim, an Egyptian pharmacist, was executed for sorcery in the Saudi capital of Riyadh after he was found guilty of having tried "through sorcery" to separate a married couple, Human Rights Watch said. |
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Fox

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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I doubt this will surprise anyone, and that's genuinely tragic. Barbaric, ridiculous violations of human rights by Muslim nations have become mundane. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I find it hard to have much sympathy for a psychic. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| I doubt this will surprise anyone, and that's genuinely tragic. Barbaric, ridiculous violations of human rights by Muslim nations have become mundane. |
It's another great reason why the death penalty should be abolished everywhere.
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| I find it hard to have much sympathy for a psychic. |
Yeah, and I think people who disagree with me should be beheaded, too.  |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| I doubt this will surprise anyone, and that's genuinely tragic. Barbaric, ridiculous violations of human rights by Muslim nations have become mundane. |
It's another great reason why the death penalty should be abolished everywhere.
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| I find it hard to have much sympathy for a psychic. |
Yeah, and I think people who disagree with me should be beheaded, too.  |
I don't think psychics should be beheaded. I do think they should do well regulated tests to show if they can what they claim to do.
In this case, I feel bad for him...but it is a psychic so how big a loss could it possibly be. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| I doubt this will surprise anyone, and that's genuinely tragic. Barbaric, ridiculous violations of human rights by Muslim nations have become mundane. |
It's another great reason why the death penalty should be abolished everywhere.
| JMO wrote: |
| I find it hard to have much sympathy for a psychic. |
Yeah, and I think people who disagree with me should be beheaded, too.  |
I don't think psychics should be beheaded. I do think they should do well regulated tests to show if they can what they claim to do. |
This has never happened. There is a million dollar prize available for anyone who can prove they have psychic abilities. No one has ever claimed it.
But that isn't why most people go to psychics or fortune tellers or whatever. Most go for the entertainment and choose to go along with the fantasy. It's just a form of entertainment. Heavily regulating it will mean there is less entertainment for people. how is that a good thing.
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| In this case, I feel bad for him...but it is a psychic so how big a loss could it possibly be. |
If he were really a psychic he would have seen this coming.
Conclusion: Disgusting. |
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On the other hand
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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the alleged crimes of "witchcraft, recourse to jinn (supernatural beings)" and animal sacrifice.
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Well, I can understand why the Saudis, in particular, would have a problem with recourse to jinn. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: TV Psychic to be beheaded for witchcraft |
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| madoka wrote: |
She added that Sibat did not make predictions in Saudi Arabia and was neither a Saudi citizen nor a resident in Saudi and therefore should have been deported rather than tried there.
Sibat made predictions on an Arab satellite TV channel from his home in Beirut. He was arrested by the Saudi religious police during his pilgrimage to the holy city of Medina in May 2008 and sentenced to death last November. |
What I find disturbing is that he guy did not commit any crime in Saudia Arabia. He was only nabbed when he visited the country.
Someone needs to warn fromtheuk!  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
In this case, I feel bad for him...but it is a psychic so how big a loss could it possibly be. |
The guy's got a family and he's trying to make a buck, just like the rest of us. If people are into what he has to say, what's the harm?
I'd rather defend him than the barbarous Saudi regime that's constantly out for someone's head. |
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JMO

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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Fair enough.
I personally don't ascribe to the 'it's just entertainment' theory when is comes to psychics. People do believe them and they are being exploited.
However he does not deserve to get his head cut off. |
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caniff
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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However he does not deserve to get his head cut off. |
On that we can agree. |
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.38 Special
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
Fair enough.
I personally don't ascribe to the 'it's just entertainment' theory when is comes to psychics. People do believe them and they are being exploited.
However he does not deserve to get his head cut off. |
This is so true. It's not like people like me who spend their life's savings on worthwhile endeavors, like getting that damn Leprechaun's pot of gold!
Oh, and...... "Please, please don't call me now!"  |
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