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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: Co Teacher Problems |
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Ok. I switched schools at semester. At my last school I was the teacher, and the homeroom teacher sat in the back of the room, only speaking up when necessary to do a translation here and there. That was great. I had my lessons all planned out and (except for a few) were well executed. Now this semester I got switched to a new school. I have the same co-teacher for all of my classes. She speaks in Korean most of the time (if not all of the time). I have no idea what is going on in the class most of the time. She is just talking and all of the sudden the students respond. I'm just standing there thinking what the hell is going on here. Sometimes I repeat one or two words for the class. Once in a while I will ask them a question, but she usually buts in with something in Korean anyway, so the kids don't listen to me. I have asked her several times what I should do, I want to do more, etc...etc.. and she lets me plan a lesson sometimes, but doesn't let me teach it and just interrupts me. Any suggestions? I went from loving teaching to despising it in a matter of a few weeks. I hate coming to work now. Please if anyone else was in this situation, please tell me what you did or are doing to fix it. I can't take much more of this. |
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aishiii
Joined: 24 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Park yourself at the computer and play texttwist or scrabble or something. Don't expend energy during the day, and then you'll be fresh after work to rip up the town. You can even afford to go hard every night and just catch up on your sleep during class. Think positively. |
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TexasChicken
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: My suggestion. |
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Check out the movie office space. Sounds like your a Cassette player LOL.
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm experiencing. When you talk to her about it does she just tell you to plan lessons and teach American culture or something along that line? Tell her, you can not read minds and you do not have a USB cable to attach your head to hers so you do not know what is going on. This is a sign you are not getting along well with her or she simply doesn't like you. If she wanted, she would cooperate and include you instead of telling you are not doing a good job teaching and then teaching in Korean. Tell her about the problem and suggest you conduct some of the class. Tell her you need to work togethor as a team and would like to enjoy using your teaching skills as to do a better job for the students. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Just relax and enjoy the free ride, OP. Kick back in your command seat and let your co-teacher do all the work.
Keep reminding your co-teacher that she's doing a great job.
You got it made chief!  |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's awesome.
I mean, I feel for you as that would make my blood boil....but you've got to love this place sometimes. Let's pay thousands and thousands of dollars to bring in a native speaker and then pay another person millions of won to come in and speak Korean over the top of them for the entire class.
I know that I'd go berserk and completely take over the class from her, telling her that this was MY class and that she was my co-teacher....then again, this is why I don't work at public school as this type of diplomacy would undoubtedly fail miserably.
At the very least you need to talk with her and ask her nicely to never speak Korean in your class again. Ha ha....I am sure that will go over really well. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's awesome.
I mean, I feel for you as that would make my blood boil....but you've got to love this place sometimes. Let's pay thousands and thousands of dollars to bring in a native speaker and then pay another person millions of won to come in and speak Korean over the top of them for the entire class.
I know that I'd go berserk and completely take over the class from her, telling her that this was MY class and that she was my co-teacher....then again, this is why I don't work at public school as this type of diplomacy would undoubtedly fail miserably.
At the very least you need to talk with her and ask her nicely to never speak Korean in your class again. Ha ha....I am sure that will go over really well. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I feel your pain. I had a year as a 'tape recorder' with SMOE. It completely demoralises you as a teacher, I know. Basically, your co-teacher has some issues, either with Englisheee, native speakers, or is just a control freak (very common among teachers, I'm afraid).
There's no right answer to your problem. I just had to play the dummy in her classes, but I delivered my own lessons with the other co-teachers (who did their job, i.e., classroom management and translation etc).
Something you might want to watch out for if you want to get re-signed: At the end of the year SMOE didn't re-sign me - get this - because I hadn't got the kids to speak. Welcome to Korea. |
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espoir

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Incheon, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Only worry if you want to get re-signed. Otherwise enjoy the free ride. |
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The Goalie
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Location: Chungcheongnamdo
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:01 am Post subject: |
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I had that in Japan. The kids were bored and I was bored. I always got in trouble for goofing off with the kids in the first row. How could I not? There was a boring teacher parsing sentences with different coloured chalk on one side and a bunch of cool students wanting to learn English (or at least engage with the English teacher) on the other. Who was I going to side with? The only advise I can offer is to ask the teacher if she is busy. If she says yes, offer to take as many classes as she's willing to give. Otherwise, just be bored and don't be afraid to show it. And tell her you came here to teach, not to observe. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: |
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This situation is so easy to deal with that I'm sitting here (in my comfortable apartment enjoying a nice beverage) wondering what's up here. I've had four coteachers in the past year and a month who all did the mammoth Korean language shtick in the English class. I just told them with an earnest sense of understanding: "I know why you are speaking in Korean in the English class and I understand, but please think of the students. When you speak Korean you are telling the kids that they don't have to listen to the English. They know it will either be translated or explained, so every activity can be done with the least amount of English comp possible."
I usually tell them that we need to talk between classes or after the classes are over and then I tell them my feelings and the logic behind them. Almost invariably they get it, so do it--and mean it. This needn't be an issue. Think it through why speaking primarily, but not completely in English is to the students' benefit. Some Korean is fine as it can help the weakest students, the distracted students, or the limited time you have available balance out. |
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hang10

Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Location: Asia, Twice the sex half the foreplay
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Co Teacher Problems |
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cincynate wrote: |
Ok. I switched schools at semester. At my last school I was the teacher, and the homeroom teacher sat in the back of the room, only speaking up when necessary to do a translation here and there. That was great. I had my lessons all planned out and (except for a few) were well executed. Now this semester I got switched to a new school. I have the same co-teacher for all of my classes. She speaks in Korean most of the time (if not all of the time). I have no idea what is going on in the class most of the time. She is just talking and all of the sudden the students respond. I'm just standing there thinking what the hell is going on here. Sometimes I repeat one or two words for the class. Once in a while I will ask them a question, but she usually buts in with something in Korean anyway, so the kids don't listen to me. I have asked her several times what I should do, I want to do more, etc...etc.. and she lets me plan a lesson sometimes, but doesn't let me teach it and just interrupts me. Any suggestions? I went from loving teaching to despising it in a matter of a few weeks. I hate coming to work now. Please if anyone else was in this situation, please tell me what you did or are doing to fix it. I can't take much more of this. |
LMAO, dude leave, it(korea) isn�t worth a Dam in the long run. You love teaching like most people do with experience and a good heart prior to going Korea! That place will suck the life out of you and spit you out at the end without saying thanks for your help. She probably hates you lol, as most of em are racist and hate foreign teachers LOL. It�s funny I am sorry, the truth of Korea comes out. It will only get worse and if you try harder to make it work they will turn you into their little pet slave. As that is what you are! A hired monkey that speaks English from an inferior land full of drugs and HIV. LOL. Can I have a check on that  |
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withgusto
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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so, there is the positive - free ride
and, the negative - life sucking/racism
what is worth more? I'm not sure what I'd do. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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air76 wrote: |
I mean, I feel for you as that would make my blood boil....but you've got to love this place sometimes. Let's pay thousands and thousands of dollars to bring in a native speaker and then pay another person millions of won to come in and speak Korean over the top of them for the entire class.. |
Thats exactly it. A Huge waste of money for the Korean "English programme" because most Korean co-teachers hate the waeguk taking control.
What I'd do is calmly call a meeting with her and explain how you feel and that the class should be at least 50/50. A lot of co-teachers think that the waeguk is only an "assistant". The education board is partly to blame because they don't spell out to the koreans what their role should be...and do nothing to fix the problem.What should happen is that the foreigner is in charge of lesson planning and teaching, while the korean takes care of discipline and translation.
Keep talking with her privately but if she's still unco-operative you will have to take the issue to your principal (eg via your recruiter). I had this problem but the only person available to tell the principal was the co-teacher herself (who deliberately mistranslated what I was saying).
Totally stupid.  |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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nautilus wrote: |
air76 wrote: |
I mean, I feel for you as that would make my blood boil....but you've got to love this place sometimes. Let's pay thousands and thousands of dollars to bring in a native speaker and then pay another person millions of won to come in and speak Korean over the top of them for the entire class.. |
Thats exactly it. A Huge waste of money for the Korean "English programme" because most Korean co-teachers hate the waeguk taking control.
What I'd do is calmly call a meeting with her and explain how you feel and that the class should be at least 50/50. A lot of co-teachers think that the waeguk is only an "assistant". The education board is partly to blame because they don't spell out to the koreans what their role should be...and do nothing to fix the problem.What should happen is that the foreigner is in charge of lesson planning and teaching, while the korean takes care of discipline and translation.
Keep talking with her privately but if she's still unco-operative you will have to take the issue to your principal (eg via your recruiter). I had this problem but the only person available to tell the principal was the co-teacher herself (who deliberately mistranslated what I was saying).
Totally stupid.  |
This is pretty poor advice. Dictating terms to someone, with more education, experience and authority than you is a huge mistake. We are just assistants. Most of us don't have teaching diplomas, therefore aren't really qualified to lead a class by ourselves.
Why would your recruiter give a damn about your work issues? It's not their job to arbitrate when you cock up your relationship with your employers. |
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