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Korean public schools - no religious affiliation?

 
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Caffeinated



Joined: 11 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Korean public schools - no religious affiliation? Reply with quote

I teach in, AFAIK, a public elementary school in Seoul. I noticed today that my 4th grade elementary students had handouts of an English religious song about Abraham and his many sons with a Korean translation. A couple of weeks ago the handout was about Jesus teaching people how to fish. So are Korean public schools supposed to be truly public schools with no religious affiliations, or are they public by name only but unofficially Catholic?
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Korean PS are built by church ( I went to a Presbyterian one, Est. 1905). Those that aren't built by church don't have religion as part of curriculum. However, family members of students are free to evangelize at schools, just as sales-people are free to come to school and make sales pitches.
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jinju necklace



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the school is officially designated as a catholic or buddhist school (in which case it would be a private school) it is illegal to promote any religion in a public school in Korea.
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salgichawa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Korean public schools - no religious affiliation? Reply with quote

Caffeinated wrote:
I teach in, AFAIK, a public elementary school in Seoul. I noticed today that my 4th grade elementary students had handouts of an English religious song about Abraham and his many sons with a Korean translation. A couple of weeks ago the handout was about Jesus teaching people how to fish. So are Korean public schools supposed to be truly public schools with no religious affiliations, or are they public by name only but unofficially Catholic?



Hi,

Many if not all of them are secular. A teacher had some parents complain so we made sure Easter cards were non religious.

Even the public school training promoted the Father Abraham song though.

I think they run into each other because a large number of parents and teachers are strongly catholic or christian.

I have to at least explain the holidays at home and most of them are based on some religious celebration (I know, I know..pagean etc)..
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it one of those private-public schools?
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Caffeinated



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Is it one of those private-public schools?


AFAIK I work in a SMOE-run public school. I know some of my teachers are very religious - my co-teacher spends the bulk of her free time either at church or church-sponsored activities. Our lessons together have been religion-free, tho, which is what I would have expected from a teacher in a public school thus I'm a bit surprised to see Catholic handouts pop up randomly twice in the short amount of time I've been there (and that parents are allowed to evangelize at school). Then again I see three neon crosses from my apartment and a private English company rents out the English room at school so I don't really know what to expect in Korea. Rolling Eyes
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eljuero



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Religous public school Reply with quote

I work in a SMOE "public/private" school. I was quite surprised to find out that I worked in a "mission" school. In short, this means that the school was founded by Catholics some time ago. Twice a week they pull out a church organ in the morning meeting and sing a song. Bizarre, but then again, it bothers me less than religious thinking in my home country. At least it's all in Korean which I don't understand. I usually leave an online news article on the monitor to glance at while they're doing their thing. I turn the bible to a similar looking page to act like I care. I've explained my family background is Irish Catholic and then say I'm pretty "Korean" about discussing religion at work as it is illegal to ask about it in the workplace in my country. That usually is enough to muddy the waters and move on.
According to at least a few co-workers who are honest, the school does have a higher rate of conservative or religiously oriented folks working there. I wouldn't resign at the school due to their conservative and rigid thinking about things which, I'm afraid, goes hand in hand with a lot of religious institutions. Again, I'm quite surprised this happened at a public school. If I resigned with SMOE I'd request a clearly secular place next time. Just my two cents.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if your school is a public-school funded by a religious organization, the students are pretty much a standard cross-section of society. Also, not all the teachers will be religious at your school.

If other teachers pressure you to go to church or something, just politely turn them down.
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eljuero



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Even if your school is a public-school funded by a religious organization, the students are pretty much a standard cross-section of society. Also, not all the teachers will be religious at your school.

If other teachers pressure you to go to church or something, just politely turn them down.


Of course not all of the teachers are religious but in the apparently grayer world of public/private schools there can be differences about what's ok, tolerable etc.. A few of the non-religious teachers (Korean) there feel it is conservative place with some religious overtones.

The issue for me isn't whether I go to church or not but whether I'm viewed negatively for not singing Christian hymns at my publicly funded desk.

Just my two cents.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just roll with it. I taught in a catholic private/public last year. No problems. My boss was a nun, and a real sweetie. We had a couple of catholic ceremonies during the year, and the kids could have mass once a week if they wanted it. I went to the ceremonies for 'manners' - it was quite interesting as I'm a buddhist. There were also a few statues outside, and each classroom had a Jesus on cross sculpture.

I was surprised to find that most teachers weren't catholic, and that only about 30 kids in the whole school were catholics. However, as it was a private school - the VP's and admin people had to be catholic to advance their careers.

No worries.
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balzor



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Just roll with it. I taught in a catholic private/public last year. No problems. My boss was a nun, and a real sweetie. We had a couple of catholic ceremonies during the year, and the kids could have mass once a week if they wanted it. I went to the ceremonies for 'manners' - it was quite interesting as I'm a buddhist. There were also a few statues outside, and each classroom had a Jesus on cross sculpture.

I was surprised to find that most teachers weren't catholic, and that only about 30 kids in the whole school were catholics. However, as it was a private school - the VP's and admin people had to be catholic to advance their careers.

No worries.
agreed^^^^ It's not really that big a deal, If it were a problem the admins would put a stop to it and as long as no one is forcing you to teach something you have an objection to, then let it be
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