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jhuntingtonus
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Location: Jeonju
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: Romance with teachers (not your co-teacher) in the office? |
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I'm looking, and the cupboard's pretty bare for available women with decent English aged 35 to 65 here (I'm 53), so I want to cast a wider net. I'm well versed on the literature about workplace romances in America, where actually people are hypocritical - they recommend to avoid it, but a vast number actually meet, and often marry, that way.
So beyond that, what can you tell me about trying to go out with teachers (not my official co-teachers, where it would be a real problem if it ended)unconnected to me in the public schools where I teach? Any special dangers? Do principals or other authority figures get especially angry when miguks do that sort of thing? Any other considerations I should know?
Thanks yet again! |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think you might have a lot more success joining an online dating agency. There should be lots of older divorced women in Korea, if we're to believe the divorce figures here. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Depends how much they (admins) like you. Really.
I know of a few people that got involved with people in the workplace. One of the got married, another had a bad breakup. But in the eyes of management, it was fine for both of 'em because they were 'popular'.
If you do decide to embark on a relationship, then for goodness sake KEEP IT SECRET. Don't tell anyone. Not even your dog or goldfish.
It doesn't matter if you haven't dated in all 53 of your 53 years. Tell one soul and they may say you're a "player" here to steal local women and break hearts
Good luck |
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Aelric
Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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My only advise would be the same everyone should have: expects VERY different expectations on the relationship. If the lady you date is in her 50's and divorced, then she might just be intensely conservative and your courtship may need to promise marriage very early on and with a short timeline.
If she has grown children, that might prove a bit more problematic here than it would in the west as well. These are theoretical, however. Not to discourage you, but I myself can't see dating the locals again (albeit I'm in my 20's) due to severe differences in expectations, so I wish you luck. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I had a mate who had an affair with a teacher from his school (not co-teacher). After about 6 weeks of keeping it quiet, she did the K thing and took him down south to meet the rellies. (I warned him what that meant.) Needless to say when she put the M word on him, he did a midnight run. Probably the stupidist (and the smartest thing) he's ever done. |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... My one and only romantic interest here in Korea ended up being my wife (that was twenty-six years ago) and she was a teacher in the same high school where I taught. However, she taught science, not English. Still, we tried keeping it quiet, and didn't let anyone outside the family know about us until just before our wedding ceremony (by which time we had already been legally married for over two months).
We started out as friends, which became more as time went on, and I'm sure other teachers noticed. Often, she would pretend indifference to me in front of other people to make them believe she had no interest in me, but I doubt our secret was all that secret...
Everyone's experience will be different, but mine has lasted a long time. If marriage is not in your plans, go cautiously with workplace romances. |
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sesyeux
Joined: 20 Jul 2009 Location: king 'arrys
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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oldfatfarang wrote: |
I had a mate who had an affair with a teacher from his school (not co-teacher). After about 6 weeks of keeping it quiet, she did the K thing and took him down south to meet the rellies. (I warned him what that meant.) Needless to say when she put the M word on him, he did a midnight run. Probably the stupidist (and the smartest thing) he's ever done. |
fleeing the country, that's dedication to the single life!
but yeah, dating websites. there's tonnes of past threads about dating, i know most will be about
that guy who likes to talk about his many K gfs and conquests /
the trials of 20 somethings and text messages
but some have a list of internet dating sites, check them out.. |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Yeesh; not to be a jerk, but you're over 35 and need someone to tell you not to *beep* where you eat?  |
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shcforward
Joined: 27 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Depends on where you are working, but I have to agree with ThingsComeAround.
Keep it as secret as possible. If some of the older, more conservative Koreans find out a K-teacher is dating a foreigner in the same school, there can cause some major problems. Depending on where you are at, it wouldn't even matter if you were Korean, they would give you grief until one of you transferred to a different school.
Seriously, you could ruin someone's career just because of a fling. Play it safe. |
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ladron

Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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jdog2050 wrote: |
Yeesh; not to be a jerk, but you're over 35 and need someone to tell you not to *beep* where you eat?  |
Don't get your meat where you get your bread.
Don't get your honey where you get your money. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Not Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well he is in...
Never mind.
jdog2050 wrote: |
Yeesh; not to be a jerk, but you're over 35 and need someone to tell you not to *beep* where you eat?  |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Teaching at a public school?
Don't date your co-workers (goes without saying) for all the common sense reasons.
On the good side however, about 20% of your students' moms will be divorcees.
No problem with dating those. Start up a parents class at your school. You'd be surprised who you will meet.
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Teaching at a public school?
Don't date your co-workers (goes without saying) for all the common sense reasons.
On the good side however, about 20% of your students' moms will be divorcees.
No problem with dating those. Start up a parents class at your school. You'd be surprised who you will meet.
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Take MY advice. Stay away from ANYONE at work, including MOTHERS. They are all in an influential group called the mothers association that wields a great deal of power at all public schools. As long as Korea has school choice, and, starting this year, evaluations of all teachers by parents, you should consider the mothers of students to be off-limits. |
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jhuntingtonus
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Location: Jeonju
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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shcforward wrote: |
Depends on where you are working, but I have to agree with ThingsComeAround.
Keep it as secret as possible. If some of the older, more conservative Koreans find out a K-teacher is dating a foreigner in the same school, there can cause some major problems. Depending on where you are at, it wouldn't even matter if you were Korean, they would give you grief until one of you transferred to a different school.
Seriously, you could ruin someone's career just because of a fling. Play it safe. |
Thanks. THIS (not the responders who mentioned online sites, which I have been doing for months, or the responders who blankly asserted it was wrong to look for romance at work, when I worked for AT&T where 13% of employees were married to another one) is the sort of response I was hoping not to get, but will heed.
I don't fully understand why anything would be seen as immoral about dating someone in the office, when the people's work responsibilities don't intersect. But Korean sensibilities about foreigners can be strange and intolerant, so that's why I posted the question. Thanks agan! I'll fish in other places, if I can find them... |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
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My personal rule of thumb - don't date people you work with or it gets messy.
HECK - one of my co-workers told me he really liked me last year and I told him no because we worked together.. we still work together but things got so out of hand (his part, he was hurt by the rejection pretty much) we actually have to avoid each other now. |
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