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Uni job without MA or TESOL, etc.

 
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Uni job without MA or TESOL, etc. Reply with quote

If I have a BA (unrelated to English/Linguistics) and a (will be) year of teaching experience at a public elementary school, should I even bother applying for uni jobs in Seoul? I was looking at these:

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=41687
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=41689
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=41721
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=41709

^ Those were the latest uni jobs posted.

I guess I'm wondering how tough competition will be. I'm pretty sure I could get sparkling recs, I graduated Magna cum Laude, and I can BS through interviews like an Olympic BSer. I'm also 22, lol, so I wonder how they'll react to my age.

Thanks.
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most unis outside of Seoul will hire people without a masters. In Seoul, only a few unis still hire those with only a BA. The best way to get into uni jobs is to start in the uni's hogwon and try to get into the regular uni credit classes. Another way is to find someone who works in a uni and use them to network with people responsible for recruiting/ hiring new teachers.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your age will be MUCH more of an issue than anything else....most schools won't want to hire professors who are younger than some of their students. Especially with the men doing military service, a lot of your male students are going to be 24-26 years old.

I am not saying that it will be impossible....but you'd definitely be looking at the real starter universities out in the sticks, and not in Seoul.

The postings that say Master's required really do mean it, you are wasting your time applying for these jobs. Most of these schools have a policy in place that you MUST have an MA or 3+ years of university experience before you can work there, and they stick to this policy.

The postings that say MA preferred are a different story, you can apply to those jobs with only a BA.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
Most unis outside of Seoul will hire people without a masters. In Seoul, only a few unis still hire those with only a BA. The best way to get into uni jobs is to start in the uni's hogwon and try to get into the regular uni credit classes. Another way is to find someone who works in a uni and use them to network with people responsible for recruiting/ hiring new teachers.


Thank you, sir. I have a close family friend who is a tenured prof. at Ehwa, but she's in the Public Health department. Could she be of help or would it need to be someone in the English dept.?
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:


Thank you, sir. I have a close family friend who is a tenured prof. at Ehwa, but she's in the Public Health department. Could she be of help or would it need to be someone in the English dept.?


Of course she can help. It's not what you know...it's who you know. That saying is about 5x as strong in Korea.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Your age will be MUCH more of an issue than anything else....most schools won't want to hire professors who are younger than some of their students. Especially with the men doing military service, a lot of your male students are going to be 24-26 years old.

I am not saying that it will be impossible....but you'd definitely be looking at the real starter universities out in the sticks, and not in Seoul.

The postings that say Master's required really do mean it, you are wasting your time applying for these jobs. Most of these schools have a policy in place that you MUST have an MA or 3+ years of university experience before you can work there, and they stick to this policy.

The postings that say MA preferred are a different story, you can apply to those jobs with only a BA.


Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
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