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Presenting at the Intl KOTESOL Conference?

 
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:14 am    Post subject: Presenting at the Intl KOTESOL Conference? Reply with quote

Anyone ever tried to do a workshop at the international conference that they do in October? Is it very difficult to get a workshop accepted? Are there lots of people who submit workshops to try to present?
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makemischief



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a few. A surprisingly large number do a apply- but there are a lot of time slots so your odds are pretty good. Most people who are rejected have really terribly written abstracts.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, ok, I'll give it a try. Never hurts to try. Hate to get rejected though.
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makemischief



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries- make sure to at least loosely connect to the conference theme and follow good abstract format and you should be all set. Good luck!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we're going to do something about classroom management, so hopefully that will tie in. I hope.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, start saving up and bring your check book!

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livinginkorea



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it that time already!!! Must get the thinking caps on.
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
Also, start saving up and bring your check book!

DD
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Nobody likes an ass, Deubel.

I've presented at the IC numerous times. As MoM said, be sure to have a good abstract and submission. You shouldn't have too much of a problem. I wish I could have the opportunity to present this coming October, but, I won't be in Korea anymore as of June.

Best of luck to you.
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jinks



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naturegirl - 'Identity' is a sub-theme for the 2010 PAC/KoTESOL International Conference, if you can consider this in your presntation/paper it may help to make your ideas more appealing to the vetters
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought KOTESOL conference was basically a big event where the KOTESOL members can boost their own egos, solicit books no one wants, and present lectures on techniques that in no way are applicable in the Korean classroom.

I went last year, and there was a single thing I saw that I could use in my high school classroom.

You would think, being the Korea Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages that the topics would be Korea focused.

How do I get high school students to learn English Speaking, and not spend 99% of their time studying how to get a higher score on their Sunoong Exams?

How do I get students to use English outside of the classroom?

How do I get students to overcome the awkwardness of speaking English to each other in a public setting in Korea? Seriously, 2 Koreans fluent in English are going to speak Korean 100% of the time because they don't want strange stares from people around them.

How do you supplement the Elementary English curriculum mandated by the Korean government?

How do you plan an effective summer/winter camp that satisfies what the Koreans want, and you can do with minimal help (many Native teachers have to plan and run their own camps without any other help. Oh yeah, most times with little or no budget).

How about classroom management in a Korean classroom?

All of us have had to contend with multilevel classrooms. All the lecturers always suggest, "Hey, get a upper level student to help the lower level ones". Wow, such great advice. What if the upper level students don't want to help anyone? What if the lower level students just don't care and don't want to learn English? How about some techniques to deal with that?


(Sorry OP, I kinda hijacked your thread into a rant about the KOTESOL conference).


Now, if the lecturers DO address problems with Teaching English in Korea, then why don't they say so in the lecture titles/descriptions. Why the need to use fancy or ambiguous descriptions?

Just looking at the website now, I see:

Simple Activities for Super Classes

Five Things I�ve Learned From My Students


That tells me nothing. Does this lecture apply to me? What grade level? What ability level? Is this applicable in public schools? In Hagwons?

Getting your 6th grade Elementary Students to study English

THAT is a lecture worth attending. THAT is practical.

Make English Conversation relevant to High School Students

Activities for Middle School Students in a 10-15 student Hagwon Classroom

Activities for 40 student classrooms with multilevel Middle Students

Teaching techniques applicable for any sized classes

Going from teaching kids to adults, how to transition your teaching


More examples of lectures that would be interesting to attend.
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makemischief



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:

I went last year, and there was a single thing I saw that I could use in my high school classroom.


Funny. Many complain about the conference being too focused on the practical, and not enough on the research. Damned both ways I suppose. All lectures in the program manual contain a detailed abstract as well as a tag with suggested level (elementary, university, etc.).

A few practical 2009 workshops that are obvious just from the title:
    Let's Go Digital: Tools for Classroom Management Success
    Student Presentations in TOEIC Courses
    Stopping Plagiarism through a Processed-Based Portfolio Approach
    Turning Students into Avid Readers: Essential Reading
    A Critical Examination of a Mandatory English Language Program
    Splendid Blended Blogging: Blogging in Business English Class
    The Graded Readers Approach to Extensive Reading.
    Finding Focus for Less-than-Motivated Learners
    Teachers' Beliefs on English Team teaching in Korean Elementary Schools (presented by Korean teachers- interesting perspective)
    TKT: The New Cambridge ESOL Teachers Exam in Korea
    Teaching Tricky Teens: Practical Approaches to Teaching Teenagers
    The Asian Youth Forum: International Understanding through EFL
    Recognizing and Beating Teacher Burnout (perfect for you!)
    Extensive Reading in an IB Curriculum
    Teaching Grammar in the Primary Classroom


Not saying they were all good by any means, but if you really found nothing relevant to your situation, I'm surprised. Why not try applying to present and enlightening us with your vast wisdom about Korean High Schools? Very Happy
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

makemischief wrote:


Not saying they were all good by any means, but if you really found nothing relevant to your situation, I'm surprised. Why not try applying to present and enlightening us with your vast wisdom about Korean High Schools? Very Happy


From a blogger:

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http://chrisinsouthkorea.blogspot.com/2009/10/kotesol-conference-2009.html

I'm not a member of KOTESOL, though I highly respect the ideals of taking teaching seriously and professionally. This conference seemed to take itself as seriously, however - as a result, it wasn't as interesting or helpful as I hoped it to be. Most of the commercial presentations seemed focused on selling one person's or one companies books, while the other presentations I attended on heard about didn't seem to add anything new I didn't already know. I ended up spending more time talking to other teachers about socializing / networking...

Although I was somewhat familiar with the details of the conference, I originally had no plans to go. Why? Too much 'academia' and not enough connection to the real world of teachers. Presentations like "On the Strength of L2 Lexical Knowledge" and "Finding the Middle Ground: Reconciling Constructivist and Traditional Approaches in a Content-based Class" do little to help someone keep a class of ten 7-year-olds attentive. Even working with adults means following the school's rules about how to work with your students.

For next year, I'd love to see a few less speakers, but speakers of a more interesting nature - in other words, choosing quality over quantity.


From Dave's ESL threads:

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I do wish that KOTESOL would be more academic. As the number of MAs and Phds increases the topics have to become more academic. I wish that presenters would make their topic and title more specific. To be honest, that would reduce the number of people leaving a presentation in the middle of it if they knew what it was about from the title. It's takes a while to read the schedule and if the topic is vague I think people generally skip over it or go to it and then realise that it is not for them and leave early. A title that is long and well explained would really go a long way for people to decide where to go. Just a thought.


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I did not find the experience very user-friendly for a first timer. When you show up, lunch is sold out. "You were supposed to know orders closed at..." The online bulletin has nothing happening at 1:15, but Dr. Frickenfrack is talking then. "Didn't you know the book was different?" We almost lost our bags for the night. "You were supposed to know the coat check closes at..." I honestly felt that a lot of useful information was missing. It was my assumption that the Saturday banquet was a general function, but it really was an event for the KOTESOL administration. Little things you're just supposed to know.



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Program - there should have been a very nice highlighting/bold of all even remotely commercial related topics/presentations. I went to one about nettrekker and almost half or more of the 40+ there didn't know it was a purely commercial show. I'm sure this happened often.

Research: Yes, could be more research oriented presentations but on the other hand, there could be more workshops with very practical methods explained and taught to teachers. Both were in very short supply.


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A conversation about teacher training (open panel): A lot of feathers and not much chicken. Surface comments, audience questions dodged, and too much praise about KOTESOL.


My 2 cents:

I've heard that the 2009 conference was much better than the previous ones. I know that organizing something like that is a huge undertaking and its unrealistic to expect everything to be perfect.

It would be nice to have the schedule of speakers organized in a way so people are scratching their heads wondering which one to go to. How about listing the events multiple ways. Have a main one that lists events by time. And then have sub categories (academic lectures, practical workshops, elementary students, secondary students, adults).

Couldn't you get the speakers to fill out a small questionaire when they apply to be a speaker? They can check options like "Academic or Practical", "target age group of learners", "public school setting or private", etc...
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang,

No offense man, but all of your concerns have been addressed. Have you NOT read through the website? Have you not read any of the table of contents from the past conferences? Whether it's research-based or pragmatic, it's labeled. So are the targeted age groups. Man, have a look before opening your mouth.

Any well-balanced conference is going to have a little bit of research, a little bit of practicality, and, a little bit of commercial in it. Sheesh.
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