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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Grade 3 crowd control. Reply with quote

I've always had trouble in dealing with the longer set. This time it seems to be back-to-back classes of 30 Third Graders that seem to be giving me grief. Anyone have any ideas about classroom tactics reguading these tiny lads. I've been trying to sort things out by giving them lots of group work and trying to keep them busy but sometimes it's just plain hard to get them to focus on anything. So, any ideas would be helpful.
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TheChingu



Joined: 08 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rewards/punishments work well.

3-6th graders get a "sticker" on our front board for a really good day of behavior and participation. When they get 10 stickers they get to have a party in class where the bring snacks and watch an english cartoon movie.

Any probelms with the class I just ask them if they want to lose a sticker or get a sticker today? Usually lines them up quite well.

When teaching and a few students are talking, I usually frown and stop talking, and the more studious ones will shush them for me.

Good luck im sure there are a ton of strategies that all work.

Worst case scenario make them all close their eyes and take 5 with their heads on the desk.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChingu wrote:
Rewards/punishments work well.

3-6th graders get a "sticker" on our front board for a really good day of behavior and participation. When they get 10 stickers they get to have a party in class where the bring snacks and watch an english cartoon movie.

Any probelms with the class I just ask them if they want to lose a sticker or get a sticker today? Usually lines them up quite well.

When teaching and a few students are talking, I usually frown and stop talking, and the more studious ones will shush them for me.

Good luck im sure there are a ton of strategies that all work.

Worst case scenario make them all close their eyes and take 5 with their heads on the desk.


LOL I actually pulled the "heads down" trick today. For the most part it was a success. Thanks for the tips.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groupwork is overated. I works best when using the Communicative approach with highly motivated learners. You might want to try arranging the class in a half circle seating plan and have them study dialogues. Tell them that if they do the material for the class properly you'll give them time to play a game/ watch a music video/ or watch a Mr. Bean Video.

Have them first practice a substitution drill, using choral repetition. While doing this walk around the room and keep all students on task. If you have Powerpoint this is even better for doing substitution drills.

Then make them do pairwork. Insist no Mr. Bean video until they are all working in pairs.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
Groupwork is overated. I works best when using the Communicative approach with highly motivated learners. You might want to try arranging the class in a half circle seating plan and have them study dialogues. Tell them that if they do the material for the class properly you'll give them time to play a game/ watch a music video/ or watch a Mr. Bean Video.

Have them first practice a substitution drill, using choral repetition. While doing this walk around the room and keep all students on task. If you have Powerpoint this is even better for doing substitution drills.

Then make them do pairwork. Insist no Mr. Bean video until they are all working in pairs.


I see where you're coming from I would love to have a semi-sircle seating chart but it is physically impossible in my classroom. (There are six oval tables where the kids sit.) Could you give me an example of a "substitution drill" is it different from basic listen and repeat?
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Steve_Rogers2008



Joined: 22 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one technique I learned from the co-teacher I liked was the "3 fingers" approach to get the class as a whole to quiet down.

1. Start with having class chant "3 fingers, 3 fingers," and clapping 3 times.

2. Repeat with "two fingers, two fingers," and two claps with the class.

3. "1 finger, 1 finger," and have the index finger go up to the mouth for quiet.


Repeat as necessary if the class is really out of hand. Wink

then of course, there's the "broken record technique" which works with all ages, as long as you stay firm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertiveness#Broken_record
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Fishead soup wrote:
Groupwork is overated. I works best when using the Communicative approach with highly motivated learners. You might want to try arranging the class in a half circle seating plan and have them study dialogues. Tell them that if they do the material for the class properly you'll give them time to play a game/ watch a music video/ or watch a Mr. Bean Video.

Have them first practice a substitution drill, using choral repetition. While doing this walk around the room and keep all students on task. If you have Powerpoint this is even better for doing substitution drills.

Then make them do pairwork. Insist no Mr. Bean video until they are all working in pairs.


I see where you're coming from I would love to have a semi-sircle seating chart but it is physically impossible in my classroom. (There are six oval tables where the kids sit.) Could you give me an example of a "substitution drill" is it different from basic listen and repeat?



A substitution drill is learning one or more pattern and changing it for different situations. The text book Side By Side is set up according to this methode. This is great for learning directions and prepositions. Students learn and few questions and learn to modify their responces according to pictures. Works great with PPT. You can get some great Powerpoints on
EFL Classroom 2.0 ning under Instuctional Powerpoints. Side by Side
Powerpoints taken directly from the textbook.

Examples of a substitution drills.
Can you tell me how to get to the barber shop.
Go straight one block and turn left.
Can you tell me how to get to the beauty salon
Go straight two blocks and turn right.

Where is the pen?
Its on the desk.
Where is the book?
It's in the desk.
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:

(There are six oval tables where the kids sit.)


Draw 6 circles on the board representing the tables. Each table that is good gets a 'circle' and each table that is bad (talking, not paying attention) gets an 'X'. After the video ask the class questions..."What did Minsu say?"...and give one circle to the table that answers correctly. Try to give each table the same opportunities to get circles.

My entire class lesson is based on this and the students start the police themselves. Tables that finish the class with the most 'circles' are the winners so they can leave first, etc. The tables with only 'x's have to stay after class and push in all the chairs.

They normally all figure it out by the second class and will fight for the opportunity to get circles and destroy any student that causes the table to get an 'x'.
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pikachun1



Joined: 09 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have to threaten them a little, like telling their parents.
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