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Suwon23



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Graduate Programs in Korea Reply with quote

So I'm looking at graduate schools in the USA right now. I'd love to come back to Korea and study there, however, so I've started doing some research into Korean universities. I wonder if you might help me out a little. My Korean isn't great, and although I can easily get back to a conversational level, classes and assignments entirely in Korean would be nearly impossible, so I'm basically limited to the English-language programs. I'm pretty flexible about what area of study I choose, and I don't mind if I can't get all my credits in Korea. I can fill in the rest in the States, probably. The main problems are:

1) Finding programs. I know about the major schools that offer English programs, like Yonsei, but are there any lesser known programs that an internet search might miss?

2) Evaluating programs. I know a lot of schools in Korea aren't so good, and it's important that my course work be good enough to be worth something in the states. I need some smart people to help me pick the good programs from the bad.
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jugbandjames



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm pretty flexible about what area of study I choose


Then grad school may not be for you. It's pretty rigorous, and if you aren't motivated by a very strong interest in what you're studying (as in, you want to be immersed in it and spend all of your free time studying it) then you'll find grad school very difficult.
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: Graduate Programs in Korea Reply with quote

Suwon23 wrote:
My Korean isn't great, and although I can easily get back to a conversational level, classes and assignments entirely in Korean would be nearly impossible, so I'm basically limited to the English-language programs.


That's not necessarily true. Universities are increasingly recruiting foreign teaching staff in an effort to increase the proportion of classes being taught in English and to become more competitive. At the SKY unis close to 40% of the classes are already being taught in English and, from what I've been told, this will continue to increase in the future. Also, don't worry if classes are taught in Korean. At the SKY unis, textbooks and other class materials are mostly in English, and, if you require extra help, your professor and fellow students will be happy to provide it. Your best bet is to contact the professors prior to registering in their course and asking them how they will teach their course and what materials they will be using. You can then make an informed decision about taking a certain course, or not.

Suwon23 wrote:
1) Finding programs. I know about the major schools that offer English programs, like Yonsei, but are there any lesser known programs that an internet search might miss?


There are a lot of good schools out there, but the best are by far SNU, Korea University and Yonsei University. Ajou University and Hankuk University of Foreign Studies also have a strong foreign student body, though they don't rank quite as highly as the SKY unis.

Suwon23 wrote:
2) Evaluating programs. I know a lot of schools in Korea aren't so good, and it's important that my course work be good enough to be worth something in the states. I need some smart people to help me pick the good programs from the bad.


Don't worry about your coursework being accepted for transfer to the US: all universities in Korea are accredited by the Korean government and credits earned at these universities are transferable to US universities (check out CHEA for details). That having been said, you'll want to do your studies at one of the better universities because a) the quality of education is better, b) the bigger universities provide a lot more funding, and c) lower ranked universities often don't have graduate programs.

jugbandjames wrote:
Then grad school may not be for you. It's pretty rigorous, and if you aren't motivated by a very strong interest in what you're studying (as in, you want to be immersed in it and spend all of your free time studying it) then you'll find grad school very difficult.


I agree with Jimmy on this. If you don't already know what you're going to study, then you aren't ready for grad school. You don't know what you're going to focus your research on, consequently you haven't prepared a research proposal or a study outline (they'll ask for one to be appended to your application) and therefore you'll have a difficult time convincing anyone to provide you with a scholarship. Fees at the top unis in Korea are about W 6.5 million a semester at the doctoral level and W 5.5 million per sem at the MA level, so not having a scholarship makes financing your degree challenging.

Good luck and all the best.
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Suwon23



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're a life-saver, Thiuda. Good news about accreditation, bad news about the cost.

As for the area of study, I don't mean to say I have no interests. My undergraduate degree was in history, and I've continued studying for pleasure over the years since. I'm also interested in economics, political science, and legal theory. I would certainly choose an area of study from one of those. But the university I get into would determine what direction I want to go. If I get a chance to study at a big school in China, for example, my choice might be different than if I study at a small school in Japan. If I say "I only want economics" I might miss out on a great poli sci program, or vice versa. Basically, I want liberal arts, preferably one of the areas I mentioned. I've been working harder than a team of mules at a job I don't even like for the last few years, so I'm cautiously optimistic that I can handle a challenging graduate program and even enjoy immersing myself in it entirely without pulling my hair out. Wink
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kpmth00



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also like to get more information on this , too
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suwon23 wrote:
Good news about accreditation, bad news about the cost.


If you're accepted by a university as a graduate student, you will receive a scholarship - at a minimum 75% of your tuition fees. If you are the bee's knees and show great potential, then you can get 100% of your tuition waived + a living expenses stipend (check out the NIIED for scholarship info).

It sounds like you've got a good amount of work experience, which, if it's in your field of study, will be looked upon very favourably. I'm guessing that you're slightly older than the average fresh-off-the-plane English teacher, which will also work in your favour, because professors prefer to supervise mature individuals, i.e. you can work independently, have a work ethic, and can accurately and honestly judge your strengths and weaknesses. If you have a solid undergrad record and can back it up with two or three good refs, you won't have too much trouble securing a spot.

Two things that you need to keep in mind: 1) you will be asked to provide evidence of your financial security by providing a certified bank statement showing a balance of $10k and, 2) while this may seem counter-intuitive, you will have to prove your English ability by providing TOEFL scores when you're applying for scholarships. I know, you'd think having done an undergrad/grad degree in an English speaking country and holding an English speaking nation's citizenship would be enough, but, lemme tell ya, it ain't.
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jugbandjames



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the same as working at a job you don't like. Think of it more like taking the GRE all day. If it's a subject that stimulates you, then it's not so bad. If it's something that bores you, then you won't be able to do it.

I'm not trying to discourage you from going to grad school. I'm trying to encourage you to figure out what exactly it is you want to study so that when you get there you don't fail out (and failing out means lower than a B average). When I started my MA program, there were 8 incoming MA candidates. Only 3 of us completed our coursework and thesis on time. Two completed it late (meaning their funding didn't cover the last bit, so they spent a bit of money), one failed out because he made a D in one class, and another transfered to an easier program because she almost failed out. The two who completed their program late did so because, even though they knew what they wanted to study course-wise, they didn't know what they wanted to research. Because they didn't jump right into the research for their thesis in the first year, they weren't able to complete it on time. The ones who failed or transfered did so not because they were bad students but because they weren't prepared to specialize in linguistics. One had a lit background and wasn't able to handle the physics and statistics. He made A's in most of his classes, but got a D in the one that was physics and statistics heavy.

There are also other benefits to knowing exactly what you want to do before entering grad school. For instance, I started doing research my very first semester (partially because I had a research assistantship instead of a teaching assistantship, so it was required) and this allowed me to write several quality research papers that I presented at conferences in the spring. As a result, it was easier to get the best people on my thesis committee.

The best approach is to figure out what interests you, figure out what research is being done in that area, and then apply to schools where those researchers are. Don't just go to a school because there is a good program--there's lots of good programs. That doesn't mean you'll graduate from them.
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jugbandjames wrote:
I'm not trying to discourage you from going to grad school. I'm trying to encourage you to figure out what exactly it is you want to study so that when you get there you don't fail out (and failing out means lower than a B average). When I started my MA program, there were 8 incoming MA candidates. Only 3 of us completed our coursework and thesis on time. Two completed it late (meaning their funding didn't cover the last bit, so they spent a bit of money), one failed out because he made a D in one class, and another transfered to an easier program because she almost failed out. The two who completed their program late did so because, even though they knew what they wanted to study course-wise, they didn't know what they wanted to research. Because they didn't jump right into the research for their thesis in the first year, they weren't able to complete it on time. The ones who failed or transfered did so not because they were bad students but because they weren't prepared to specialize in linguistics. One had a lit background and wasn't able to handle the physics and statistics. He made A's in most of his classes, but got a D in the one that was physics and statistics heavy.

There are also other benefits to knowing exactly what you want to do before entering grad school. For instance, I started doing research my very first semester (partially because I had a research assistantship instead of a teaching assistantship, so it was required) and this allowed me to write several quality research papers that I presented at conferences in the spring. As a result, it was easier to get the best people on my thesis committee.

The best approach is to figure out what interests you, figure out what research is being done in that area, and then apply to schools where those researchers are. Don't just go to a school because there is a good program--there's lots of good programs. That doesn't mean you'll graduate from them.


This is dead on, especially the part about starting your research immediately. And, as was mentioned, identify those scholars with whom you want to work and contact them prior to applying for a grad program. Often researchers are quite willing to help you in your formulation of a research proposal and, if it's good, they'll even (partially) fund your research from their budget - if they have the funds available.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:

Two things that you need to keep in mind: 1) you will be asked to provide evidence of your financial security by providing a certified bank statement showing a balance of $10k and, 2) while this may seem counter-intuitive, you will have to prove your English ability by providing TOEFL scores when you're applying for scholarships. I know, you'd think having done an undergrad/grad degree in an English speaking country and holding an English speaking nation's citizenship would be enough, but, lemme tell ya, it ain't.

The financial requirement is no longer in effect (as of last year.)
I've never had to take the TOEFL.
Your results may vary by school and immigration office.
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
The financial requirement is no longer in effect (as of last year.) I've never had to take the TOEFL. Your results may vary by school and immigration office.


I agree, it may vary from uni to uni. At Korea U. the financial requirement is still in effect, as is the TOEFL requirement if you're applying for 100% scholarship.

KU Reqs: http://oku.korea.ac.kr:8080/newsite2007/international/admissions_guide2007.jsp?divide=eng
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kinerry



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Australia
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katsu



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Graduate Programs in Korea Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
At the SKY unis close to 40% of the classes are already being taught in English


What are SKY unis?
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Suwon23



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Graduate Programs in Korea Reply with quote

katsu wrote:
Thiuda wrote:
At the SKY unis close to 40% of the classes are already being taught in English


What are SKY unis?

SNU, KoreaU, and Yonsei.
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