Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Bringing a pet to Korea?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Lancerz



Joined: 24 Jan 2012
Location: Virginia, USA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Bringing a pet to Korea? Reply with quote

Hi All,

I'm new to the boards so apologies if this has already been asked. I'm planning to move over to Korea this summer once I've secured a teaching position. I have a dog and a house that I'm leaving behind in the care of my family while I'm gone, but I've been thinking about having my dog sent over to join me since I'm going to be gone for so long (at least a year). Has anyone else done this? I've looked up the immigration and transportation requirements for my dog (he's a 60lb mutt) so I know the costs and paperwork associated with such a move, but I'm more concerned about how it would affect my position in Korea. Is pet ownership viewed negatively by employers? What are the fees associated with keeping a pet in your apartment? Are there size/breed restrictions I should be aware of? Is pet ownership common in Korea? Anything else I should take into consideration that I'm not aware of?

Any information/input is appreciated. Thanks for your time!

Kat
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful, Koreans eat dogs like we eat cheeseburgers. Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lancerz



Joined: 24 Jan 2012
Location: Virginia, USA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:
Be careful, Koreans eat dogs like we eat cheeseburgers. Very Happy


I'm aware of the canine consumption issue. My research into the matter has led me to believe that while some dogs are eaten (primarily this 'yellow dog' breed I've read about), Koreans also keep dogs as pets and there is a social distinction between food dogs and pet dogs. Let me know if I'm wrong on that because then I'll definitely keep my pup in the US!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lancerz wrote:
Died By Bear wrote:
Be careful, Koreans eat dogs like we eat cheeseburgers. Very Happy


I'm aware of the canine consumption issue. My research into the matter has led me to believe that while some dogs are eaten (primarily this 'yellow dog' breed I've read about), Koreans also keep dogs as pets and there is a social distinction between food dogs and pet dogs. Let me know if I'm wrong on that because then I'll definitely keep my pup in the US!


Koreans do keep ankle biters at pets. They even have beauty salons in just about every large apartment complex to get their fur colored and bows put on their heads. They are treated like little babies by their owners.

As a teacher you will be living in a 10'*15' shoe box with all the furniture and your belongings stuffed into it, in a concrete jungle. You will have about 36 square feet of bare floor remaining (if you are lucky).
Your friend will be locked in there for up to 12 hours per day alone while you are out.

Yes, it will make you feel better if it is here with you but shipping a 60lb canine friend to spend a year cooped up in a cage is not nice.

Just my humble opinion.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bring the dog.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while it's wise of you to wait and check out the home environment before bringing your furry friend over, I'd be hesitant to have him fly by himself - airlines these days simply don't have the reputation for looking out for their 2 legged passengers, much less the 4 legged ones!

and once you get here - what if you want to travel around, which you surely will - if at a minimum, at the end of your stay?

if you're only gone a year, and you have a safe place to keep him, he'll surely remember you when you return.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sell your dog and buy a new one when in Korea. Problem solved.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cacille



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Bringing a pet to Korea? Reply with quote

*For readability, everything I say will be inside these asterisks. Everything else is quoted.*

I'm new to the boards so apologies if this has already been asked. I'm planning to move over to Korea this summer once I've secured a teaching position. I have a dog and a house that I'm leaving behind in the care of my family while I'm gone, but I've been thinking about having my dog sent over to join me since I'm going to be gone for so long (at least a year). Has anyone else done this? I've looked up the immigration and transportation requirements for my dog (he's a 60lb mutt) so I know the costs and paperwork associated with such a move, but I'm more concerned about how it would affect my position in Korea. Is pet ownership viewed negatively by employers? *Not really I don't think. Haven't heard of such a thing, but can't answer it yet myself. Epik don't seem to have a problem with it as I put that I was bringing pets on my application - there was even a spot for it on the application.*

What are the fees associated with keeping a pet in your apartment?
*Not sure if there are any. It's either no pets or some pets, and that is that, from what I've heard. Can't answer this one yet myself*

Are there size/breed restrictions I should be aware of? *YES. Aggressive breeds are looked down on and they will face considerable restrictions if you have one. Short nose dog breeds are not allowed to fly at certain times of year, or sometimes not at all. This is due to their breathing in lower oxygen levels. We humans deal with it easily, short noses don't quite as much apparently. ALLLLLL of the plane companies in the USA AND Asia have this restriction.*

Is pet ownership common in Korea? *yep*

Anything else I should take into consideration that I'm not aware of?
*1. Be prepared to pay a lot for each leg of the flight that you fly with a different airline. Fly as few as possible.
2. It seems that the Korail system does not have any rules on pets travelling on the train. I may be wrong, but I haven't seen any. This may be an option you may not have thought about.
3. A specific crate container may be needed for your pet - and they differ per each airline. It is almost impossible to fulfill the needs of each airline's crate requirements as one wants one thing while another doesn't. "Airline approved" crates....aren't approved by every airline.
4. There ARE pet stores in Korea. I found this one page, may be helpful for you to find a vet and pet stores in your new area, whatever that may be. http://www.hery.fr/en/hery-sellers-in-the-world/153-hery-sellers-in-south-korea.html
5. Get your pet microchipped now - make sure it is a international one. They will require it soon so you may as well, and then you can prove you have owned your pet more than 30 days when you bring proof of the microchipping from your vet.
6. The documentation you need for your pet is A. Health Certificate B. Quarantine certificate. They use the USDA APHIS ones in Korea, I THINK. Still not sure on this one but from info I got, they do. Your pet will be quarantined for a while. Plan your flight and settling-in-Korea time accordingly.
7. PM me with other questions. I'll answer em as I can, if I can.
P.S. I'm taking household birds, not a dog.*


Last edited by Cacille on Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:12 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DomAndJenny



Joined: 21 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fiancee and I are going through the same situation now. Well, we are almost over the hurdles, we leave in 2 weeks.

We were really upfront about our somewhat large mutt as well, so we had no problem securing a job (we are also certified teachers willing to share an apartment, I think that this made a difference). Before we signed the contract we asked if we could fly with a particular airline, they agreed, we just had to pay the difference in the cost of the cheaper flight (which seemed really fair, and ended being almost the same price anyway).

The 60lbs becomes a problem depending on what airline you fly we have come to realize. There is a restriction on flying with anything over 70lbs with some airlines (air canada and korean air). So the dog and kennel need to be under 70lbs together. But don't forget that you have the option of shipping the dog over on its own after you arrive, it is just much more expensive (flying with you about $300, shipping is more like $1400). We are prepared to ship her if they won't allow her on the plane. There are other airlines, but they all have their own special restrictions. I suggest googleing all your options and the calling and talking to a representative, the reps give you extra restrictions you might not have thought of. We are going Air Canada, then Korean Air btw.

Also, if you haven't crate trained your dog before, now is a good time to start. Our dog loves her crate, she hangs out in there on her own accord. We crate trained her as a puppy so this obviously makes a difference. If you do it right the dog should feel very comfortable and safe in their crate. I think this is also a good idea for apartment living. We are playing with the idea of crating her while we are away, we did for the first 1.5 years of her life. I think that we will probably do it for a few days until she gets familiar with our schedule.

Also, if you haven't lived in an apartment with a pet I have. It is a big commitment, but so is owning a dog so I am sure that you were prepared for that. Our plan is to be up at the crack of dawn to walk the dog for an hour before work so that she doesn't go crazy while we are gone. Then another walk when we get home. You only need enough room for a dog to curl up at your feet as long as you are going to dedicate enough of your free time to hanging out with your furry friend.

But, like I said, we aren't going to be over there for another couple of weeks. I will update you in the beginning of March if you like and tell you how it all works out.

For now, like someone else suggested, get her microchipped, ensure her rabies shots are up to date. Check out this website for the regulations:

http://www.nvrqs.go.kr/eng/rese_quarantine_02.asp?pageNumber=3-0

Good luck!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it may be difficult for you to be apart from your dog for a year, but I think you really need to think about the dog and not yourself in this case.
If he has a loving place to stay where he can play and run around freely, don't put him through what could be an agonizing, traumatizing experience by having him sent here.
It would be at least 24+ hours he'd have to be cooped up in a cage, and you won't be there if something goes wrong during the process.
Pets have been known to die during flights, maybe not very often but it does happen--is it worth the risk?
You can always SKYPE if you miss him that much! Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
strange_brew



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave your dog at home. It's just not right to force these dogs to live in these tiny box apartments. You'll be at school all day, and the dog will be cooped up in a tiny apartment. Think of your pet rather than yourself.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lancerz



Joined: 24 Jan 2012
Location: Virginia, USA

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your input. My dog and I have been through a lot together, including several moves. I'm not worried about apartment living as we've done it before, but he was abused as a puppy and hates crates...I think Skyping for a year while he hangs out with his cousin at my sister's place will ultimately be the best decision.

For those of you taking your pets, thank you for your insight and I hope you and your pets have a great time in Korea!

Kat
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Lancerz wrote:
Died By Bear wrote:
Be careful, Koreans eat dogs like we eat cheeseburgers. Very Happy


I'm aware of the canine consumption issue. My research into the matter has led me to believe that while some dogs are eaten (primarily this 'yellow dog' breed I've read about), Koreans also keep dogs as pets and there is a social distinction between food dogs and pet dogs. Let me know if I'm wrong on that because then I'll definitely keep my pup in the US!


Koreans do keep ankle biters at pets. They even have beauty salons in just about every large apartment complex to get their fur colored and bows put on their heads. They are treated like little babies by their owners.

As a teacher you will be living in a 10'*15' shoe box with all the furniture and your belongings stuffed into it, in a concrete jungle. You will have about 36 square feet of bare floor remaining (if you are lucky).
Your friend will be locked in there for up to 12 hours per day alone while you are out.

Yes, it will make you feel better if it is here with you but shipping a 60lb canine friend to spend a year cooped up in a cage is not nice.

Just my humble opinion.

.


X2
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, don't bring the dog. Newbie teachers have crap schedules and your little buddy will suffer as a result of it. If you're going to be here at least a few years, do a year, settle in, get a decent and consistent schedule, and then bring over Spot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International