| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
tefain
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Location: Not too far out there
|
 Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: Carlsberg workers strike over drinking policy |
 |
|
| Quote: |
Hundreds of Carlsberg workers are on strike because the brewer failed to consult them when it changed rules on drinking alcohol on the job, a union spokesman said Friday.
Since the Danish brewer was founded in 1847, workers have been allowed to drink as many beers as they wanted during the day, said Michael Christensen, a representative of the the United Federation of Danish Workers (3F).
A company spokesman said that was as long as workers didn't get drunk.
On the first of April, however, Carlsberg changed the policy so workers could only drink beer during their 30-minute lunch break at the canteen, company spokesman Jens Bekke told CNN. |
I think we chose the wrong career! 
But does Carlsberg really think workers will be drinking less?
Just imagine the 30-minutes-of-mayhem the lunch breaks will be! 
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/04/09/denmark.carlsberg.strike/index.html?hpt=T2 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Jeonmunka
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| That is an insane workplace rule. Can't believe that was allowed, even 150 years ago. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| Since the Danish brewer was founded in 1847, workers have been allowed to drink as many beers as they wanted during the day, said Michael Christensen, a representative of the the United Federation of Danish Workers (3F). |
No wonder why Danes live so long and Denmark has such high quality of life. The tallest people on earth have had the best attitude!
(As recent as the late 1950s there have been mining jobs in Canada where drinking on the job was openly practiced and encouraged, again, not to the point of being drunk. A lot of European immigrants worked those jobs. I know from family history.)
Everything in moderation is a way of life for the sane and responsible. The American way of excessive alcohol bans for the youth and in public has led to excessive binges of irresponsibility and jails filled with alcohol-related "criminals". A society gone mad based on a misguided puritanical premise. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jeonmunka wrote: |
| That is an insane workplace rule. Can't believe that was allowed, even 150 years ago. |
People drank on the job for centuries. However the beer was much lower strength, and the main reason they drank was, there was no clean drinking water. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Carlsberg workers don't do strikes...but if they did....they would probably be the best strikers in the world. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
When I was in the US Navy I was a fuel truck driver for military aircraft. (ABF for anyone with navy rating knowledge)
While stationed in Spain in the early 80's, we had civilian (Spanish) drivers and they all brought their own liter of beer to go with their lunches. They kept the beer in the same fridge we ran our soda mess out of. These drivers drove on the flight line and parked the fuel trucks within ten feet of aircraft to do their jobs refueling them. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
|
| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jeonmunka wrote: |
| That is an insane workplace rule. Can't believe that was allowed, even 150 years ago. |
Insane how? Insane because it is dangerous or insane because it violates your innate prejudices?
If it was a problem they would have stopped it a century ago. Experience tells us that it was not. No amount of squeamishness can change that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kiknkorea
Joined: 16 May 2008
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| VanIslander wrote: |
| The American way of excessive alcohol bans for the youth and in public has led to excessive binges of irresponsibility and jails filled with alcohol-related "criminals". |
This sounds more like Korea than America. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
VanIslander wrote:
The American way of excessive alcohol bans for the youth and in public has led to excessive binges of irresponsibility and jails filled with alcohol-related "criminals".
This sounds more like Korea than America. |
Actually this is only a recent issue. My co-teachers told me that when they were in high school on thier school picnic they were allowed to try Makoli but only in the presence of the teachers and only a certain amount.
Now the students learn about alcohol on thier own time and without supervision.
My friend (before he passed away) was offering his daughter some beer. I was a little shocked and while I didn't say anything it showed. He made the valid point that when is the best time for her to learn about alcohol, out on a party by herself or in a safe situation watched over by her parents.
PC doesn't just stop abuse it also kills intelligence. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Summer Wine wrote: |
| Quote: |
VanIslander wrote:
The American way of excessive alcohol bans for the youth and in public has led to excessive binges of irresponsibility and jails filled with alcohol-related "criminals".
This sounds more like Korea than America. |
Actually this is only a recent issue. My co-teachers told me that when they were in high school on thier school picnic they were allowed to try Makoli but only in the presence of the teachers and only a certain amount.
Now the students learn about alcohol on thier own time and without supervision.
My friend (before he passed away) was offering his daughter some beer. I was a little shocked and while I didn't say anything it showed. He made the valid point that when is the best time for her to learn about alcohol, out on a party by herself or in a safe situation watched over by her parents.
PC doesn't just stop abuse it also kills intelligence. |
The American attitude is screwed up. Other, general, attitudes aren't much better. It all depends on how it is delivered.
As a kid, I grew up vacationing in France, Spain etc. and it was completely normal for me to drink wine mixed with water. As I got older, it was completely normal for me to drink beer at home on special occasions from about the age of 10 or 11. I didn't get wasted and I didn't even enjoy it that much, it was just something you did.
When I was about 15 or 16 I'd occasionaly go to a pub, and drink some beer, that was fine. They weren't so strict on the IDing and I didn't even enjoy it much.
When I went to University at 18, in our dormitory the first week we were given two cases of wine and some soda. The point was, that we should get drunk and learn to socialize with each other. We got drunk =)
A year later, I went to study abroad. I went to the USA. I went to Pennsylvania. They had a party for freshmen and foreign exchange students. I'm a year over the majority, in my country at this time. I'm 19! Anyway, I was expecting at least.. a few cases of wine and maybe some crazy drunk bulgarian chicks or something. But no. They served........ MOCKtails. Now THAT is some culture-shock. MOCKTAILS? WTF? I was blown away. I didn't even understand the point of the enterprise: EVERYONE there was either going to a party (with alcohol) or going to bed after so... what was the point? What were they thinking? A very strange experience. But that's the US! Lots of rules, but they're ALL broken..
After living in the country for a year I got it. I realised there is a big thing about presenting a fake moral facade whilst realising that allegedly 'immoral' things go on later in the US. Upon arriving in Korea, I found similar things go on. Oh well, that's the way she goes, internationally. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
When I was a kid, back in the 60's, summertime parties lasted the weekend out at the hunting camp. The first thing they did when we arrived and unloaded was set up a poker table and a lit the bbq pit. The keg was cooling in the spring and us kids were the serving wenchs, trucking pitchers of beer back to the poker table from the spring. Don't think we didn't get our share. 
Moms would take the kids home after dark to return the next day. But the poker game lasted from Friday night until the wee hours of Monday morning. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
