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wylies99

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:06 am Post subject: Online Shopping Remains an Ordeal in Korea |
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Online Shopping Remains an Ordeal in Korea
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/01/19/2010011900379.html
It takes tremendous patience and computer skills for foreigners to purchase products on Korean Internet shopping sites. First of all, accessing one of those sites triggers an avalanche of pop-up messages seeking permission to install an array of security-related programs, from keyboard hacking defenses to network firewalls. Without allowing those programs to be remotely installed, it is impossible to move on to the next stage. Then comes the tedious process of registration, which requires verification by submitting a resident registration number, home address and answers to questions such as customers' wedding anniversary.
And once registration is completed and the actual purchase is about to be made, there is a digital certification process for financial transactions. "To tell you the truth, the process requires a lot of patience even for Koreans," said one IT specialist. "Even if a foreigner can read Korean well, it will probably be close to impossible for them to buy products this way."
◆ Regulations and Membership Quotas
Korea's Internet commerce grew explosively after 2000. The market is currently scaled at W12 trillion (US$1=W1,125). But regulations have been unable to keep up with the rapid growth. A key example is the so-called real-name verification system for financial transactions on the Web, which was recently abolished.
The measure, created in 2002, was designed to prevent online scams using stolen identities and keep a log of the resident registration numbers of customers for tax purposes. Resident registration numbers were the easiest way to sort various records of transactions.
Another reason behind the cumbersome regulations is intense competition between online businesses for new subscribers. They have religiously collected information about their clients because it can translate into increased revenues. Portals such as Naver and Daum have amassed information about tens of millions of people who have subscribed to their e-mail and other services. Most shopping sites also collected information about millions of customers. But it has been used only for telemarketing purposes and not much else. That means shopping sites have made customers go through complicated registration processes without any useful purpose.
◆ Paying the Price
The reason why foreign shopping sites have simple transaction processes is because tight security measures were set in place in the process of establishing electronic commerce networks. Customers do not have to install separate security programs. eBay employs 500 computer systems workers, 100 of whom handle Internet security. Also, eBay allocates 10 percent of its annual IT investment to improving online security.
But only a handful of Korean companies including Samsung Electronics have a separate department in charge of online security, and investment in the area account for less than 1 percent of total spending on IT systems. The reason is the prevailing view that online security does not generate revenues. Instead, most Korean business sites force customers to install a host of security programs and blame them for any problems that occur in the transaction process. In some cases, computers get infected with viruses while downloading security programs.
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I dunno if the rules are different for Fs than Es. As an F I have a BC card with the Verisign or whatever and I can get crap off GMarket or Whatthebook real easily. I don't want to say its easy because I'm an F and that's a different ball game.
It would be nice to have this clarified and a step by step procedure listed. Maybe a sticky? |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Whatthebook is easy for everyone regardless of visa type, and they accept different payment methods. I only tried HomePlus once (a few months ago) but I gave up trying pretty quickly. I used one of the Costco shopping services with no problem, though. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Online Shopping Remains an Ordeal in Korea |
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wylies99 wrote: |
Online Shopping Remains an Ordeal in Korea
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/01/19/2010011900379.html
It takes tremendous patience and computer skills for foreigners to purchase products on Korean Internet shopping sites. First of all, accessing one of those sites triggers an avalanche of pop-up messages seeking permission to install an array of security-related programs, from keyboard hacking defenses to network firewalls. Without allowing those programs to be remotely installed, it is impossible to move on to the next stage. |
This is also what makes it impossible to use Korean websites on an Apple computer, or any other computer that is not running Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Korean companies have effectively given Microsoft an almost total monopoly over the Korean internet by making it literally impossible to use anything else. |
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.res.ipsa.loquitor
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Uh, maybe I'll be eating my words down the road, but I've just gotten into online shopping in Korea and it seems amazing. The English site for GMarket is pretty easy to use, and more importantly, is linked with PayPal.
There are some issues with reading Korean in the listings, but the essentials are usually in English. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote: |
Uh, maybe I'll be eating my words down the road, but I've just gotten into online shopping in Korea and it seems amazing. The English site for GMarket is pretty easy to use, and more importantly, is linked with PayPal.
There are some issues with reading Korean in the listings, but the essentials are usually in English. |
Well, I got as far as checkout and then all my information was erased because I didn't have the right version of the "Active X Control" on my computer. On my home computer, the "submit" button kept disappearing whenever I typed in my address. I couldn't register at Homeplus even though I found the registration link ... language was definitely a problem with Homeplus, but they could try making the process a little simpler. |
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jiberish

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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My wife buys stuff in like 15 seconds. It can't be that hard. Of course it is hard for foreigners. I would like to see a Korean with poor English buy something from Ebay easily. |
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Bramble

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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jiberish wrote: |
My wife buys stuff in like 15 seconds. It can't be that hard. Of course it is hard for foreigners. I would like to see a Korean with poor English buy something from Ebay easily. |
It wasn't just a language problem. GMarket is in English, and I couldn't order despite several attempts. If you have any more helpful advice it would be great, though.
Whatthebook's online service is easy to use ... and I love his message board too. |
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Senior
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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My KGF who is fluent in English, plus she had my help, couldn't get the English version to work for me. She just buys stuff for me through her account these days. It may have changed though, because I notice the English version is working a lot better on firefox. It used to be you pushed the button, but nothing would happen. It's working quite well these days. |
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Bramble

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Senior wrote: |
My KGF who is fluent in English, plus she had my help, couldn't get the English version to work for me. She just buys stuff for me through her account these days. It may have changed though, because I notice the English version is working a lot better on firefox. It used to be you pushed the button, but nothing would happen. It's working quite well these days. |
That's weird because I use FF at home. I'll have to give it another try. |
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Michelle

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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jiberish wrote: |
My wife buys stuff in like 15 seconds. It can't be that hard. Of course it is hard for foreigners. I would like to see a Korean with poor English buy something from Ebay easily. |
Hi There,
It's fine for someone with a resident card but not always with a Foreign worker card, E2 or other even if they can speak Korean.
Some sites have had a phone number you have had to call and register in Korean by phone if you don't have a Korean resident card, I mean, really. Couldn't get through to the phone the first dozen times.
I think some of the sites that are working out such as gmarket and what the book and stuff are new so let's support them.
Dominoes technically should register me for membership online (english is there yes and space for card number) and both the korean and english side of the site keep malfunctioning for me even using explorer.
Outback I should have a membership for by now but after three tries asking the manager (due to website malfunction although I was doing things all correctly) I just gave up. I thought maybe they would lose too much by giving us membership?!?!
So overall Korean Competence + Website Competence does not equal success in ordering online. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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They accept alien registration numbers at both sites, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my time. I had major technical problems with Gmarket even though the service was in English. With Homeplus, better Korean skills probably would have helped. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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no one believes me when I tell them about ebay
they think it's just a made-up copy of gmarket |
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:33 am Post subject: |
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If things don't work use IE
I find alot of Korean sites don't work properly unless you use IE
Maybe their code is optimised for it or something |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Bramble wrote: |
.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote: |
Uh, maybe I'll be eating my words down the road, but I've just gotten into online shopping in Korea and it seems amazing. The English site for GMarket is pretty easy to use, and more importantly, is linked with PayPal.
There are some issues with reading Korean in the listings, but the essentials are usually in English. |
Well, I got as far as checkout and then all my information was erased because I didn't have the right version of the "Active X Control" on my computer. On my home computer, the "submit" button kept disappearing whenever I typed in my address. I couldn't register at Homeplus even though I found the registration link ... language was definitely a problem with Homeplus, but they could try making the process a little simpler. |
I use opera with gmarket and it works fine |
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