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Idaho "Caveman" dies at 94

 
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What do you think of this lifestyle?
Love it, that's real living
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OK 100 years ago, but not now
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No way, give me modern conveniences
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Idaho "Caveman" dies at 94 Reply with quote

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Known as the "Salmon River Caveman," Richard Zimmerman lived an essentially 19th century lifestyle, a digital-age anachronism who never owned a telephone or a television and lived almost entirely off the land.

"He was in his home at the caves at the end, and it was his wish to die there," said Connie Fitte, who lived across the river. "He was the epitome of the free spirit."

Richard Zimmerman had been in declining health when he died Wednesday.

Few knew him by his given name. To friends and visitors to his jumble of cave-like homes scrabbled from a rocky shoulder of the Salmon River, he was Dugout Dick.

He was the last of Idaho's river-canyon loners that date back to Territorial days. They are a unique group that until the 1980s included canyon contemporaries with names like Beaver Dick, Cougar Dave and Wheelbarrow Annie, "Buckskin Bill" (real name Sylvan Hart) and "Free Press Frances" Wisner. Fiercely independent loners, they lived eccentric lives on their own terms and made the state more interesting just by being (t)here.


Really interesting read.
While this may seem pretty extreme, you can bet he never worried about slow load times or whether or not he should buy an iPad. Wink

Full article-
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/04/23/1164899/death-of-caveman-ends-an-era-in.html
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God bless hermits. Smile

Sometimes it's easy to look down on those we don't understand. But I think most rural folks, maybe some urban, can feel a tug every now and then to the land. Sometimes the land makes a lot more sense than the racket we make and struggle with everyday.

Around here, hermits and mountainmen are respected, although you keep your distance.
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Arthur Dent



Joined: 28 Mar 2007
Location: Kochu whirld

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of this woman. I was in Tofino in 1983 and later, but I didn't get the chance to visit her or her property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cougar_Annie

I did meet another fellow in Quatsino sound in the mid 80's. He rowed out to see us while we were diving off Drake Island. A friendly fellow, had been there for years. He must have been in his 70's at least at the time. He had a regular clapboard style home, but I doubt he had electricity.

I don't know if I would call them hermits, just people who live a life closer to nature - and not in an idealistic way.

There was another guy who lived in the woods in Ontario, in the Black Sturgeon/Lake Nipigon area. He also passed away many years ago. People from the Outward Bound camp nearby would visit him. He had built an interesting home, partly below ground.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermit? Laughing

Such people are well aware they are surrounded with all kinds of life.

And every day has purpose and meaning, and at the right pace to live a long healthy life.

If I hit 50 without wife or offspring I might be tempted to do a moderate version of that. Since I grew up in a town of 5,000 in rural Northern Vancouver Island, surrounded by wildlife and the beauty of nature, it won't be a big leap for me. My home province of B.C. has lots of good fishing, and my dad's early lessons in hunting game, plucking fowl, and cooking could come in handy.

It's not for everyone but it sure is great for some.
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.38 Special



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe American hermits are different from their Canadian counterparts Shocked

Then again, sociable, non-hermit technophobes around here are called The Amish Laughing
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Fox



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admire this type of person. They do something I don't think I really could. It's not the solitude, it's the having to do everything for yourself. I've never really done a hard days manual labor in my life. I could probably adapt to it over a few years time if I had to, but if I had the option to quit, the early frustrations would probably cause me to take it.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably the wave of the future - after misdirected science, corrupt politicians, greedy bankers, fanatical religionists, power-hungry despots, factory farmers, and sundry hate-mongers destroy all the worlds great cities (and kill vast numbers of living beings...)
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
... I've never really done a hard days manual labor in my life.


I know that this is going to sound extremely pretentious and condescending, but such is the nature of where I'm from (rural Pennsylvania), but to read that was rather shocking.

But then I had to pause to estimate the ignorance of such shock. How many city folks are out there who've never worked in a factory, on a farm, chopped wood or shoveled soil?

Bizarre.

You're not missing much, though. The physical side of it is satisfying, in its own way. I guess you could call it masculine gratification, for the men. (Most factories I've worked in have had half or more female workers, mostly middle aged. A fact of the demographics.) It gets old, though, pretty quick.

One of the problems is that your brain separates from your task after a while. If you run the same press day in, day out, month here, month there, your brain wonders. Then the next thing you know you're jarred from your reverie by the horrible sound of a machine mangling flesh and that's that.

It's easy not to notice people who are missing fingers and who have lots of scars and tissue damage from being crushed / shredded / burnt / pulled apart. Go to manufacturing and farming communities, though, and you'll find it if you're looking, a lot of it.

But that's probably the worst part about being a solitary sot, there. No safety net. None. No worker's compensation, no disability, maybe even no social security if you really get torn up. So you'd be wise to avoid machines if you were a hermit-like fellow.

Le sigh. Working man blues, eh?
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