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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Dry cleaning guy yelling in the hallway, early morning... Reply with quote

....anyone else experience this?

I've lived in this particular building for over a year now. Not every morning, but about 3-4 times a week at 8:30am, some local dry cleaning business man will walk down the hallway and yell very loudly, "Saaeeeeee ttaaaaaaakk" (drryyyyyyy cleeeeeeanniiiiinnng).

He yells it not once, not twice, but thrice....occasionally even quadrice (not a word I know). Not just down my hallway, but every level....so I can hear him in the hallway above before he comes to mine...then I hear him below after.

My questions:
1) Anyone else experience this? Is it normal in Korea?
2) Any idea of how I can stop this from happening?
3) Wtf?
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's normal, but I don't understand why he is coming so late. He should be there about 7 before most people go to work.

I suggest you start getting up earlier and enjoy the spring weather.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Dry cleaning guy yelling in the hallway, early morning.. Reply with quote

Personally I think I would be able to fall right back asleep after that, but I know some people, when woken up, cannot fall back asleep. Perhaps you could get your co-worker to write a note in Korean, that says something like this:

"Excuse me kind sir, although I understand you wish to conduct your business in the most peaceful manner possible, I have a problem sleeping and have found that I am waking up and unable to fall back asleep. My health depends on my sleep. I have a condition where I need more sleep, and if you could please either skip my hallway or come at a later time, that would be very much appreciated. My doctor recommended me to speak with you."

Step 1: give him the note along with one of those ginseng products. appear smiley, happy, and bow lots. appear humble. not a note of negativity in either you or the note.

99% chance he will stop after that...

Step 2: if problem persists, open the door, and remind him kindly that you need sleep.

Step 3: show an angry face to him

Step 4... get considerably more angry... look at him like you want to kill him (pound your fist in your hand angrily) and dont say a thing. just watch him intently. maybe he'll leave after that.

Step 5 is totally up to you

Koreans like peaceful resolutions... but there is a certain 'style' unlike in the west to going about these problems. Whatever you do, don't allow him to 'lose face' because he probably doesn't make a whole lot of money, is doing this cuz he wants to earn money for his kids education or something... just be careful and considerate.

(Damn, listen to me! Been in Korea a loooong time) Wink
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Dry cleaning guy yelling in the hallway, early morning.. Reply with quote

brento1138 wrote:
Personally I think I would be able to fall right back asleep after that, but I know some people, when woken up, cannot fall back asleep. Perhaps you could get your co-worker to write a note in Korean, that says something like this:

"Excuse me kind sir, although I understand you wish to conduct your business in the most peaceful manner possible, I have a problem sleeping and have found that I am waking up and unable to fall back asleep. My health depends on my sleep. I have a condition where I need more sleep, and if you could please either skip my hallway or come at a later time, that would be very much appreciated. My doctor recommended me to speak with you."

Step 1: give him the note along with one of those ginseng products. appear smiley, happy, and bow lots. appear humble. not a note of negativity in either you or the note.

99% chance he will stop after that...

Step 2: if problem persists, open the door, and remind him kindly that you need sleep.

Step 3: show an angry face to him

Step 4... get considerably more angry... look at him like you want to kill him (pound your fist in your hand angrily) and dont say a thing. just watch him intently. maybe he'll leave after that.

Step 5 is totally up to you

Koreans like peaceful resolutions... but there is a certain 'style' unlike in the west to going about these problems. Whatever you do, don't allow him to 'lose face' because he probably doesn't make a whole lot of money, is doing this cuz he wants to earn money for his kids education or something... just be careful and considerate.

(Damn, listen to me! Been in Korea a loooong time) Wink


Good idea, good idea. Thanks....I will try speaking with him myself in a very humble manner (hopefully win him over with my poor Korean attempts and a ginseng thingy). I was wondering if this was normal in apartments or officetels in Korea? I'd never heard of it til I moved into this place.
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toadkillerdog



Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Daejeon. ROK

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn that guy gets around. He has been doing the same thing in every apartment I have ever lived in in Korea. Same with the fruit/vegetable/scrap metal/electronics truck. guy has been following me around for the last 12 years.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...giving him a note. He's not going to care what one person, a foreigner at that, thinks about him and his mode of business.


Earplugs
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'tis true...if 97% of the other tenants (ie. Koreans) don't do anything about morning noise, it's highly unlikely YOU can do anything about it....

Maybe enlist the help of a Korean tenant who also hates it..? Strength in numbers with this one.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy is trying to make a living just like you and he's providing a valuable service to the neighborhood. That's how it is in Korea. Find a new place and just let him be.
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
The guy is trying to make a living just like you and he's providing a valuable service to the neighborhood. That's how it is in Korea. Find a new place and just let him be.


I understand he is trying to make a living. I am also trying to sleep. I wasn't going to be rude to him or anything that's why I'm asking advice on here. Isn't there some other way he could advertise....like leaving pamphlets that say "I'll come by your place and pick-up, drop-off...just call me."
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earplugs are your friend!! Very Happy
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unlikely he will heed your complaint even if you make one.

Koreans are highly dogmatic, and the Setak! cry is just the way it is done. It's done in almost every building in the country in the morning. Koreans have a hard time making exceptions, or seeing out of the box, when it comes to their dogmatic ways.

Bus drivers must wear white gloves.
A hamburger must be eaten while holding it in it's wrapper.
Fruit must be peeled and eaten with little forks.

If you start messin' with their dogmatic ways, they get offended easily.

Solution: Earplugs, my friend.
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Kryten



Joined: 10 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solution: Water gun. May I suggest a Super Soaker with pump action?
Spray him as he walks by. What? He was yelling "Dry Cleaning" so you thought you'd help him out. This only works though if you can muster up the energy to get up early enough to prepare. Spray him a few times and I'm sure he won't be walking by your hallway again. But he still might be an ass and yell from the stairwell door.

I had this problem last year but I was too lazy/groggy from being woken up early in the morning to do anything about it. I usually did dream about the water gun solution and it kind of lulled me back to sleep. An angry sleep. When I told my gf I was going to complain to the building manager, she told me that because I lived in an officetel, it was considered a place of business rather than a residential zone so I was pretty much SOL and the sae-tek guy could do as he pleased.

I often wonder how Korean nurses, paramedics, or any other shift-worker who must occasionally sleep during the day deal with sae-tek guys or the load-speaker trucks. Earplugs I guess. That, or they live in a true residential building where they don't have to put up with this crap.
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shinbowl



Joined: 09 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quit crying.
it's no big deal.
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinbowl wrote:
quit crying.
it's no big deal.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

I've lived with it over a year, was asking a question about it.

Thanks for your useless input.
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shinbowl



Joined: 09 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lorenchristopher wrote:
shinbowl wrote:
quit crying.
it's no big deal.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

I've lived with it over a year, was asking a question about it.

Thanks for your useless input.


so you were cluess for a year? what an ....
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