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kiknkorea
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 Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: Texas Gov. shoots coyote during jog |
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AUSTIN, Texas � Pistol-packing Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for wily coyotes out there: Don't mess with my dog.
Perry told The Associated Press on Tuesday he needed just one shot from the laser-sighted pistol he sometimes carries while jogging to take down a coyote that menaced his puppy during a February run near Austin.
Perry said he will carry his .380 Ruger � loaded with hollow-point bullets � when jogging on trails because he is afraid of snakes. He'd also seen coyotes in the undeveloped area.
When one came out of the brush toward his daughter's Labrador retriever, Perry charged.
"Don't attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you're a coyote," he said Tuesday. |
At least there's one straight-shooting politician!
Full story-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/ap_on_re_us/us_governor_shoots_coyote |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Haha, sweet. Imagine if the coyote was attacking a kid? He would be president by this time next week |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Hollow-point bullets! Really?!
Why must the media obsess over such things? The only people on planet Earth not using expanding bullets is the military -- and even some of them are using "open-tipped." 
But our enlightened journalists learn everything they need to know about guns (a really big subject in reporting the news) from 1980s action movies.
I bet the coyote exploded when it was shot, too  |
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geldedgoat
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I find it amusing that he completely defeated the purpose of carrying a small, crappy firearm by slapping a laser-sight on it.
As for killing the coyote... If you really feel like needlessly killing an animal, do it properly and sit your ass outside up in a tree on a frigid, early morning with some form of hunting rifle. Beer is also acceptable. Lame excuses like his are not. |
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djsmnc
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Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Good for him! Coyote could have had rabies or otherwise hurt his dog. |
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.38 Special
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Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
I find it amusing that he completely defeated the purpose of carrying a small, crappy firearm by slapping a laser-sight on it.
As for killing the coyote... If you really feel like needlessly killing an animal, do it properly and sit your ass outside up in a tree on a frigid, early morning with some form of hunting rifle. Beer is also acceptable. Lame excuses like his are not. |
So putting a laser on a gun that is small is a bad idea? You've never fired a gun before, have you?
But no, you're totally right that he would have been more ethically correct if he watched the coyote maul and kill his daughter's puppy. You also don't have children, either, eh? |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| .38 Special wrote: |
| geldedgoat wrote: |
I find it amusing that he completely defeated the purpose of carrying a small, crappy firearm by slapping a laser-sight on it.
As for killing the coyote... If you really feel like needlessly killing an animal, do it properly and sit your ass outside up in a tree on a frigid, early morning with some form of hunting rifle. Beer is also acceptable. Lame excuses like his are not. |
So putting a laser on a gun that is small is a bad idea? You've never fired a gun before, have you?
But no, you're totally right that he would have been more ethically correct if he watched the coyote maul and kill his daughter's puppy. You also don't have children, either, eh? |
The laser will allow the owner of the firearm to be more accurate. Diminishes the chances of accidents and makes for a more clean, sudden kill. |
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.38 Special
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Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| .38 Special wrote: |
| geldedgoat wrote: |
I find it amusing that he completely defeated the purpose of carrying a small, crappy firearm by slapping a laser-sight on it.
As for killing the coyote... If you really feel like needlessly killing an animal, do it properly and sit your ass outside up in a tree on a frigid, early morning with some form of hunting rifle. Beer is also acceptable. Lame excuses like his are not. |
So putting a laser on a gun that is small is a bad idea? You've never fired a gun before, have you?
But no, you're totally right that he would have been more ethically correct if he watched the coyote maul and kill his daughter's puppy. You also don't have children, either, eh? |
The laser will allow the owner of the firearm to be more accurate. Diminishes the chances of accidents and makes for a more clean, sudden kill. |
Gasp! But the poor coyote! it just wanted to kill a puppy, the poor dear. Protecting one's young from predators is sooo unnatural and unethical. Golly |
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Kikomom
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Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| Does a coyote really chase a moving target? I always thought they were more of a stealth predator. |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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It's a coyote. If you're out in the wilderness with your dog and you see a coyote you're best served to just shoot it.
Maybe first give a warning shot to spook it. |
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.38 Special
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Coyotes will kill anything smaller than they are. While they lack the sophisticated pack hunting techniques of wolves, they are aggressive and dangerous to pets and children.
They're also far, far from being endangered. In urban and semi-urban areas they are dreadful nuisances and can spread rabies. In many areas, even my rural neck of the woods, they're overpopulated and threatening animal and bird populations that are all ready suffering from urbanization and pollution.
Ever since the prices for yote pelts have bottomed out fewer people have been hunting them.
So you needn't lose any sleep over a dead coyote. Unless, of course, the idea of foxes, ground birds, and lynx extinction is an appealing concept to you.  |
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geldedgoat
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| .38 Special wrote: |
| So putting a laser on a gun that is small is a bad idea? |
Yes, putting a laser-sight on a small, underpowered, underperforming firearm is a bad idea. There are few reasons to carry a weapon like the Ruger .380: 1) you feel the need to carry something light and slight, 2) you have nothing else to carry, or 3) you're ignorant of the stopping power you're giving up by not carrying something better. Since he uses it for jogging, I would assume he falls into the first category, which is the situation my initial comment was directed at.
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| You've never fired a gun before, have you? |
Hot damn, sensitive much? When I'm back home in Memphis, I rarely leave the house without carrying, and I have been for the past five years (though admittedly, for the last 2.5 years I've have been in Korea off and on). I normally carry a 9mm Glock, but sometimes end up with my dad's .45 Kimber (which I don't care much for; fun at the range, but less-than-ideal for real-world personal protection).
So do I pass? Do I get to weigh in with opinions on firearms now?
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| But no, you're totally right that he would have been more ethically correct if he watched the coyote maul and kill his daughter's puppy. You also don't have children, either, eh? |
From the article:
"I holler and the coyote stopped. I holler again. By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger. I did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go," he said.
If it really happened like this (and that's a huge 'if'; I can't imagine a lone coyote in an undeveloped area approaching a large adult and another animal while being yelled at), then a warning shot would have solved the situation much better. Coyotes are small and oppurtunistic predators. If it was rabid, it would make more sense, but... does Texas not test animals involved in strange attacks on humans for rabies?
The much more likely scenario is Perry saw a coyote and either a) felt like shooting something (hot damn, I have this awesome toy and I never get to use it!), b) wanted a reason to get in the news to help his re-election campaign, or c) a combination of a and b.
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Kikomom
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geldedgoat
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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The article would leave me to believe that the leak originated with him, further legitimizing my suspicion that he only did this for publicity.
Perry's security detail was not required to file a report about the governor discharging a weapon, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange.
"People shoot coyotes all the time, snakes all the time," Mange said. "We don't write reports." |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
The article would leave me to believe that the leak originated with him, further legitimizing my suspicion that he only did this for publicity.
Perry's security detail was not required to file a report about the governor discharging a weapon, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange.
"People shoot coyotes all the time, snakes all the time," Mange said. "We don't write reports." |
I agree, it's almost certain this was nothing more than a publicity stunt specifically meant to link Perry with gun rights in the mind of conservative voters. |
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