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Not from one of the six required English-speaking countries?

 
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ttclub



Joined: 23 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Not from one of the six required English-speaking countries? Reply with quote

My husband and I are very likely to move to Seoul this summer due to his job rotation. His company will take care of my spousal visa so living there legally is not an issue. I am very interested in teaching English or Mandarin. I hold dual citizenship to Taiwan and Belize (official language is English). I was born in Taiwan, but have spent the majority of my life in North America. I double majored in Broadcast and Spanish at UNC-Chapel Hill. Almost every job posting that I see requires teachers to come from one of the six English-speaking countries. My question is, have you ever seen any exceptions to the rules, at either private or public school? Thank you.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Not from one of the six required English-speaking countr Reply with quote

ttclub wrote:
My husband and I are very likely to move to Seoul this summer due to his job rotation. His company will take care of my spousal visa so living there legally is not an issue. I am very interested in teaching English or Mandarin. I hold dual citizenship to Taiwan and Belize (official language is English). I was born in Taiwan, but have spent the majority of my life in North America. I double majored in Broadcast and Spanish at UNC-Chapel Hill. Almost every job posting that I see requires teachers to come from one of the six English-speaking countries. My question is, have you ever seen any exceptions to the rules, at either private or public school? Thank you.


depends on your visa status.

You will not legally be allowed to teach English as an E2 teacher.

You can probably get work without worry if you are covered by SOFA.

If you are F3 you can probably find work in something other than a public school. You MAY (depending on the job) be able to legally add it to your F3.

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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Not from one of the six required English-speaking countr Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
You can probably get work without worry if you are covered by SOFA.


This should be "You can probably get work without worry on the American military bases if you are covered by SOFA." SOFA status does not entitle someone to work "on the economy" (as the miilitary calls it). Military dependents teaching English off-base does hit the Immigration radar from time to time, so it's probably not a good idea as one can lose command sponsorship if caught.
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ttclub



Joined: 23 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the responses. My husband's work is not with the US military, so I will not be covered by SOFA. I was more hoping to arrival on the F3 visa first, then apply for a teaching position. If and when I have an offer, I am assuming that the school will be able to sponsor an E2 visa, and I'd just have to do the visa adjustment work. The big question is, do schools in Korea hire teachers from outside of the 6 English-speaking countries? Thanks again.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they don't. (not for legal work anyway)

If you don't have a passport from one of the 7 countries (USA, Canada, England, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) then you will not get an E-2 visa for teaching English.

Try another language.
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ttclub



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well...perhaps I should bank on Mandarin then?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttclub wrote:
well...perhaps I should bank on Mandarin then?


As long as you have a degree from a Chinese university then that IS doable and you can get an E2 as a Chinese teacher.

From your original post however it appears as though, unless you have an American passport, there won't be any LEGAL work for you other than as a volunteer somewhere.

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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
No, they don't. (not for legal work anyway)

If you don't have a passport from one of the 7 countries (USA, Canada, England, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) then you will not get an E-2 visa for teaching English.

Try another language.


There is one exception! Moehahahaha
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lucierma



Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:04 am    Post subject: Degrees from English-Speaking Countries... Reply with quote

I heard that the list of acceptable countries for E-2 Visa was due to be expanded to include more than the original 6 Native English-Speaking ones. Rumour was it was to include some ESL countries such as India, Philippines and Guam. Does anyone know if it was confirmed?
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ttclub



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please let it include Belize!

I was browsing on other topics and saw that if you are on a student visa you can legally tutor part-time. Is that a yes?
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, if you have a Belize passport / degree from a uni in Belize the hagwons, education officials won't accept it.

yes, it is true you can tutor/get part time work if you have a student visa.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Degrees from English-Speaking Countries... Reply with quote

lucierma wrote:
I heard that the list of acceptable countries for E-2 Visa was due to be expanded to include more than the original 6 Native English-Speaking ones. Rumour was it was to include some ESL countries such as India, Philippines and Guam. Does anyone know if it was confirmed?


Guam is not a country. It is a territory of the United States of America and thus Guamanians are eligible for E-2 visas in Korea to teach English just like any other American citizen.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Not from one of the six required English-speaking countr Reply with quote

ttclub wrote:
My husband and I are very likely to move to Seoul this summer due to his job rotation. His company will take care of my spousal visa so living there legally is not an issue. I am very interested in teaching English or Mandarin. I hold dual citizenship to Taiwan and Belize (official language is English). I was born in Taiwan, but have spent the majority of my life in North America. I double majored in Broadcast and Spanish at UNC-Chapel Hill. Almost every job posting that I see requires teachers to come from one of the six English-speaking countries. My question is, have you ever seen any exceptions to the rules, at either private or public school? Thank you.


Possibly, you could get a job at an international school. By the way, in case you did not know, an international school is a regular private school for foreign kids although it is also fairly common for Korean kids to also attend one. I actually know of a school that might still need a Spanish teacher, but you had better be fluent in Spanish.
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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had a school in Korea I would hire you.

I would petition immi to allow you to work on your F3.

This can be done in certain circumstances.

Another thing you can do is enroll as a student at a community college get
the D3 and have your professor petition to allow you to work, this is
intended for work study but is used (or abused) for sustenance as well.

These provisions are dependent upon the agent you see as well as the local
office mood of the day.

There are exceptions to the rule.
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ttclub



Joined: 23 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for the kind replies. The funny thing is, I am actually proficient in Spanish (double majored in broadcast and Spanish). I'll look into the options. I do want to learn Korean while I am there, so may very well be enrolling into a school, if I find my husband's company's language classes not sufficient.

Moving abroad is complicated, eh?
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