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Hyeon Een



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: How do you legally make money from a study room? Reply with quote

It's been suggested by a number of people that study rooms can make good money. I'm pretty sure the law says however that class sizes are a maximum of about 6 and the maximum hourly rate is something ridiculously low like 5,000won an hour.

So how do study rooms usually operate? Do they keep 2 sets of books and have the customers pay in cash? If so how can they issue receipts so that customers can claim the education expense on their tax return?

Also, how much do people usually charge students at a study room, and what are the usual class sizes? How many hours a week/month do they study there?

If anyone can point me to a link (Korean or English) which states the rules for study rooms I'd be most grateful.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: How do you legally make money from a study room? Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
It's been suggested by a number of people that study rooms can make good money. I'm pretty sure the law says however that class sizes are a maximum of about 6 and the maximum hourly rate is something ridiculously low like 5,000won an hour.


Are you a) pretty sure or b)making a wild guess ?

When you go to get a license you are asked how much you will charge per student. They ask for a) monthly charge and b)how many hours a week you will teach teach each student. The monthly rate and the hourly rate are then put on your license and thats the limit. Is there a limit? I have no idea, all I know is they accepted my rate without blinking an eye. And I sure as hell dont charge a ridiculous amount like 5,000 won an hour.

As far as the limit on class sizes, it was never mentioned nor did they ask me how many students I will be teaching. One of the biggest issues with parents is group size. The other issue is the size of your apartment. I have a 35pyeong apartment, and even though the classroom is large, it wont fit more than 6 students comfortably. A study room has to have something to give it an edge over a hagwon, class size is one of the ways to be competitive. My personal limit is 5 students per class, I would never teach more. So it really isnt an issue. Good luck getting 10 students in a class.



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Also, how much do people usually charge students at a study room, and what are the usual class sizes? How many hours a week/month do they study there?


It depends. Do the homework. It will largely depend on where you live. Im sure you could charge more in Bundang or Gangam than in other places. How much you charge is directly related to what other hagwons and study rooms are charging in the area. Its all about being competitive. Its a business. That includes hours taught.

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If anyone can point me to a link (Korean or English) which states the rules for study rooms I'd be most grateful.


Why dont you go to your district's education office and ask them for information directly?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes there are limits on tutoring (not sure about study rooms... but how could you charge more for just a "study room" and get away with it?).

Yes, I've been to my local education office.

Yes, the limit was insanely low for what we could legally charge per hour. They will provide you with a sliding scale based on how many students at how many hours you teach per month. It was somewhere around 4,900 per hour max, given the number of students and hours I wanted to teach them.

There are also rules about WHO can legally open one. They won't allow a public school teacher (and some univ. teachers) to get a license for the home tutoring gig. If your Korean wife has a teaching license or education along those lines (and she isn't working at a public school) then she can do it.

Any foreigner... yes ANY foreigner who is claiming to make millions per month off of a study room in their home is breaking tax laws, as well as local education rules. They are charging too much and not reporting the extra income -- or not reporting it correctly, most likely. Just like the hagwons do, they have to fudge the books.

Remember, the gov't HATES hagwons. The goal is to CONTROL the excessive cost burden on parents. That's why the gov't has such rules. Hagwon licenses are far from free-market opportunities to make millions off of teaching -- not legally, anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Break what down? I have no interest in breaking anything down for you, talkign about the details of my business on a public forum, meeting you or doing any podcast for you. I have no time, and no interest in whatever crusade you are on. I have my license. Im not getting rich but it is ok money. What I am allowed to do is stated clearly on the license. Nothing more clear than that. I think YOU are the one who is unclear seeing as you dont actually have a license or any real experience with this.

In another thread you admit to not even having tried to get a studyroom license but a private tutoring license. I would have to conclude that you dont know what you are talking about.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3MB wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Break what down? I have no interest in breaking anything down for you, meeting you or doing any podcast for you. I have no time, and no interest in whatever crusade you are on. I have my license. Im not getting rich but it is ok money. What I am allowed to do is stated clearly on the license. Nothing more clear than that. I think YOU are the one who is unclear seeing as you dont actually have a license or any real experience with this.



Laughing

Yeah, whatever, buddy.

Until you start giving us some true numbers to prove otherwise, you're either full of wind, breaking laws, or both.

If you were on the up-and-up with this, you wouldn't be so afraid.

Real experience? With what? Cheating tax law? Performing illegal tutoring on a study room license? You're right -- I don't have any experience with that.
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John_ESL_White



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.



You jealous bitter little man. Go back to your hakwon and continue to kiss the boss's ass for 2 mill. Maybe if you kiss it well enough he'll give you a raise. Hey, you could always rat out other foreigners to immigration. I heard there's money in that.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?




The maximum rate varies slightly region by region in Korea, but it is in the neighborhood of 7,500 to 8,000 won per student per hour, or less. You "friend" is breaking the law by charging more than 90,000 won or so per month. Probably her real legal maximum rate is lower.

Of course, I believe that she should be free to charge anything she wants. And most parents are unaware that what the maximum rates are. Like most people, they think that the government is watching, because the government tells everyone that they are watching, so they think it's legal. But, if one disgruntled parent goes to the education office, your friend could be fined millions of won and have her license revoked. Cash paid in envelopes does NOT prevent this outcome.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.


Not only do I NOT pay taxes on my income here, I do not pay taxes back home. Go figure. And, my Korean wife has NEVER paid a penny of taxes on her income in Korea! Call ATEK, lol. Do you think all those 오뎅 stands pay taxes? Give me a break. No one cares. Korean government doesn't care or they wouldn't have given me a contract to teach in public sector employees in my dong. They don't ask for a receipt or a tax stamp or anything. They deposit the money in my wife's account, like good Koreans who want a foreign english-e teacher.

go figure.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_ESL_White wrote:
buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.


Not only do I NOT pay taxes on my income here, I do not pay taxes back home. Go figure. And, my Korean wife has NEVER paid a penny of taxes on her income in Korea! Call ATEK, lol. Do you think all those 오뎅 stands pay taxes? Give me a break. No one cares. Korean government doesn't care or they wouldn't have given me a contract to teach in public sector employees in my dong. They don't ask for a receipt or a tax stamp or anything. They deposit the money in my wife's account, like good Koreans who want a foreign english-e teacher.

go figure.


So you admit that you are a Tax Evading Scum Bag here in S. Korea and in your Home Country? Which country is that by the way? It sounds like you are the perfect Rep. for the Anti-ATEK/SFC.

Believe it or not someone does care, sadly you and/or your wife just doesn't quite get it yet Idea
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.


Not only do I NOT pay taxes on my income here, I do not pay taxes back home. Go figure. And, my Korean wife has NEVER paid a penny of taxes on her income in Korea! Call ATEK, lol. Do you think all those 오뎅 stands pay taxes? Give me a break. No one cares. Korean government doesn't care or they wouldn't have given me a contract to teach in public sector employees in my dong. They don't ask for a receipt or a tax stamp or anything. They deposit the money in my wife's account, like good Koreans who want a foreign english-e teacher.

go figure.


So you admit that you are a Tax Evading Scum Bag here in S. Korea and in your Home Country? Which country is that by the way? It sounds like you are the perfect Rep. for the Anti-ATEK/SFC.

Believe it or not someone does care, sadly you and/or your wife just doesn't quite get it yet Idea


Yes, we are a "normal" middle class couple, living in south korea.

I'm actually a member of ATEK and a liason for my city, lol. I feel bad for all you E-2s getting screwed.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crosbystillsstash wrote:
buymybook wrote:
John_ESL_White wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
3MB wrote:
I have no idea what you have been told but I have a license and it is totally not the way you claim, bass. Anyway, you admit that you dont know about studyrooms, and thats all there is to it. I do have a studyroom license. I dont know about private tutoring, I wouldnt ever try to claim I did know something about it. But as far as the OP, the question was about studyrooms. I am not breaking any laws. I have the proper documentation, both with the education office and the tax office and its toally legit. Most of what you wrote is pure crapola, bordering on libel.


Libeling a nickname on a website based in the USA? Give me a break.

If it were truly as you are claiming, every Korean and their brother in the industry would be scrambling to do what you're claiming. Even if you do have a license, I'd say you're not clear on what you're actually allowed to do.

Break it down for us. What are you charging per hour? How many students are you talking about? Are they just "studying?"

I'd be happy to do a podcast about it, and I'd be glad to meet together at the local educational office to get their input on the matter.

Folks, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Like I said, Koreans would have beaten you to this idea long, long ago.


Hey Bass,

I have Korean friends who have homeschools (study rooms) and they charge a lot more than 5000 /hour. At least two of them do not pay taxes on their income, at all. It's a cash business.

One successful home school I've worked with charges 190,000/ student per month for 3 hours per week. She teaches in her living room. She's been operating for over 6 years and she has close to 40 kids. This number has stayed constant for, at least, the last two years that I've worked with her. She's a damn good teacher, BTW. Her kids actually improve.

I don't know what I'm allowed to do or what is right, but I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part time work. I get envelopes and I bow. I would guess that most of the F-2s out there are the same? No?


What, F- Series Visa Holders are NOT Angels? Let's document this!

"I do not pay taxes on any of my private or part-time work?" That's a classic, I nominate this as the post of the YEAR Exclamation

If all you cheating F-Series Visa Holders would pay-up then maybe the gauntlet would be raised on E-2 Visa Holders?

I say we bring down the hammer on all these F-Series Tax Evaders.



You jealous bitter little man. Go back to your hakwon and continue to kiss the boss's ass for 2 mill. Maybe if you kiss it well enough he'll give you a raise. Hey, you could always rat out other foreigners to immigration. I heard there's money in that.


What stinky Sock do you belong? You wanna see how little I am? Name the place and time S.F. And yes I'll rat you and any other F-Series Visa Holder out in a second since you seem to be coming out in droves as of late. You sure are swell Exclamation

I don't know why but I've come across a good number just like yourself who are admitted law breakers. I don't get it, are you being advised by "TheChickenBUTLover?" Who else could it be..."T-J?" Or are you swell with "TheRuralMyth?"
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