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knee-highs



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:37 am    Post subject: 7 Million Won Error Reply with quote

I was informed yesterday that a little over 7 million won of my overtime was accidentally paid into the account of my co-worker. This is the same co-worker who trashed the turkey for my Christmas party a few months ago.

My boss asked me to just get the money back from the Canuck and when I approached him on the issue he laughed and said "go sue me then".

This guy has really gotten under my skin over the last year and struts around waving his visa status like some kind of impenetrable shield. I admit some of this may be my own negligence, since I don't bother to check my payslips every month. Part of the reason is that my pay is all automatically forwarded to a charity I established some years back.

Still, I wonder if I should pursue this more aggressively or just bide my time and hope he gives back the money?


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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd pursue 2 routes:

1. Ask again. And again. Make it clear the money is not his, and he can't keep it.

2. Tell the boss that it was his mistake, not yours, and his to fix.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not your problem. Not your problem to fix.
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: The Internet

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChilgokBlackHole wrote:
Not your problem. Not your problem to fix.


Agreed. Also it's a good idea to keep a record of all conversations with all involved parties for the, perhaps inevitable, court fight.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the boss will go for this solution: he pays you the 7 mil he owes you and when the Canadian asks the boss where his pay is next couple of paydays, the boss just smiles and says, "Oh, you already got that in advance. Don't you remember that 7 mil deposited in your account?" Very Happy

At any rate, it's the boss's mistake, not the Canadian's and certainly not the OP's. The boss still owes the money to the OP and if anyone should be suing the Canadian, it'd be the boss.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call BS.

Who pays so little attention to their pay that they don't notice 7 million won missing?

And where are you working that you're making THAT much money in overtime? You must be working a lot of overtime to make a million or two a month extra....and so you work all these extra hours and then don't make sure that the school is paying you?

Clearly if your story is true you should not bide your time...if my school owed me 7 million won and were refusing to pay I'd be pounding on my boss's apartment door and refuse to leave until he/she transfered the money into my account via ATM. The fact that you even ask whether or not you should pursue this aggressively leads me to believe that you are exaggerating and embellishing your story...but hey, that's what the internet is for.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the internet was for porn
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd story.

But isn't it obvious that since it is the fault of your boss, he or she should step in and fix the problem?
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boss pitting you against him? Sounds like an intentional mistake as you don't just pay a tidy sum to the wrong person by mistake and if you do, the payment could be reversed.
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T-Bone



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 7 Million Won Error Reply with quote

knee-highs wrote:
Part of the reason is that my pay is all automatically forwarded to a charity I established some years back.


For this bit and the aforementioned reasons, I too call shenanigans.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me too. My overtime got paid to a co-worker with a similar name, by the time I tracked it down I was ropable. Fortunately my co-worker is a decent guy and it's not like we haven't had this kind of mix-up before (medical reports etc.). What the administrators couldn't understand was - it was not my responsibility to get the money back; my work is teaching, not pay-roll. It was all resolved swiftly, and reasonably amicably, but I did do a fair bit of hissing down the telephone (more threatening than shouting, I've found) to make my point.
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Forever



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the OP is telling the truth, then

Overtime is salary.

The fact is the OP's employer did NOT pay him/her his/her salary.

The OP just has to go to the Labor office and make a complaint that his/her employer DID NOT pay him/her, his/her salary.

Let the employer try to explain to the Labor office that he/she paid the OP's employer to the wrong person.



First, the OP should inform his/her employer that he/she is going to the Labor office and give the employer the option that if the employer doesn't want the Op to go to the Labor office then the employer should do this -

CentralCali wrote:
Maybe the boss will go for this solution: he pays you the 7 mil he owes you and when the Canadian asks the boss where his pay is next couple of paydays, the boss just smiles and says, "Oh, you already got that in advance. Don't you remember that 7 mil deposited in your account?"


The employer should do that, if not - take the employer to the Labor office.
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knee-highs



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: yes

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forever wrote:
If the OP is telling the truth, then

Overtime is salary.

The fact is the OP's employer did NOT pay him/her his/her salary.

The OP just has to go to the Labor office and make a complaint that his/her employer DID NOT pay him/her, his/her salary.

Let the employer try to explain to the Labor office that he/she paid the OP's employer to the wrong person.



First, the OP should inform his/her employer that he/she is going to the Labor office and give the employer the option that if the employer doesn't want the Op to go to the Labor office then the employer should do this -

CentralCali wrote:
Maybe the boss will go for this solution: he pays you the 7 mil he owes you and when the Canadian asks the boss where his pay is next couple of paydays, the boss just smiles and says, "Oh, you already got that in advance. Don't you remember that 7 mil deposited in your account?"


The employer should do that, if not - take the employer to the Labor office.


I think CentraCali's solution is probably what will happen based on a recent conversation.

The overtime money in question was deposited over a series of months. I have a small suspicion that the manager and my coworker might have been trying to scam me thinking that I would not look so closely at the deposits. But I have no evidence of any deliberate wrong-doing.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 7 Million Won Error Reply with quote

T-Bone wrote:
knee-highs wrote:
Part of the reason is that my pay is all automatically forwarded to a charity I established some years back.


For this bit and the aforementioned reasons, I too call shenanigans.


From what I have read over the years, the OP comes from money. I have no idea who she is and if this is true then good on her.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but it doesn't change anything. The co-worker ought to give the money back, or the boss ought to rectify the problem.

From the sounds of it, 7 million won could be a lump sum of 6 months or mre of built-up overtime, hence the oversight.
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