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Friend's package "lost", what should he do?
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:33 am    Post subject: Friend's package "lost", what should he do? Reply with quote

A friend of mine is driving me crazy complaining about his latest setback in Korea.

He had a package mailed from the US.
The package was delivered to the wrong address.

The woman who signed for it said that no one claimed it so she decided to put it back out for the mailman to pick up, but that it mysteriously vanished.

The Korean mail service has already "apologized" and are discussing some form of compensation, however I guess my friend is really angry at the woman who signed for it knowing it did not belong to her and then later letting the package "disappear". He wants to hold her accountable regardless of what the Korean post office does.

I told him to try getting advice from his co-teacher or to look up Korean law, but apparently everyone is saying that it's no big deal and thats what is making him go crazy (which is annoying me).

What can be done?

Can my friend do anything to the woman who signed for the missing package?

...and to think...I was going to have some stuff sent to me for summer. I recently looked up the threads on how crappy the Korean Post Office is.
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greatunknown



Joined: 04 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your friend wants to what? Have her arrested? Thrown in jail? Sue her? I would probably just let it go... Making this womans life miserable because of a lapse in judgement won't get him his package back.

�The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.�

Your friend is already being compensated by the post office, does he really need to create legal troubles for someone for a mistake they made? IMO pursuing this is a waste of time.

I've lost belongings due to neighbor's stupidity (apartment building fire, negligence was a factor) it was frustrating. Good luck either way
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: Friend's package "lost", what should he do? Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:


...and to think...I was going to have some stuff sent to me for summer. I recently looked up the threads on how crappy the Korean Post Office is.


Well sad to hear this..

I've only known the Korean Postal Service to be top notch.. in my 4 plus years experience..
Super quick and very reliable..


I'd be surprised if the Korean Postal Service doesn't make it up to you soon..
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goes to show... if you are sending stuff from home, SEND IT TO YOURSELF AT YOUR SCHOOL!!!

There is someone there to receive it, it won't go astray and you will get it promptly.

In regards to your friend - this isn't the litigious states of America.
There is NO recourse against the lady. There is minimal recourse against K-post. What happened is common in Korea. Someone signed for it, couldn't figure out who in the building it belonged to (and he probably didn't look for a note next to the post boxes or couldn't read it if he did see it.)

It was unclaimed by the recipient (reason doesn't matter) and returned to the post office. Since it probably didn't have return international postage guaranteed it would eventually be destroyed at the main post office.

Tell his to get over it.

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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the woman needs to know how badly she MOD EDIT. I get sick of old people here doing stupid shit like that without thinking.

If the woman knows how mad he is, that might knock some sense into her.

Does the post office let anyone sign for anything? Can I go to the OP's house, stand in front and sign for his possessions, then take them? Sounds like a good deal.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Goes to show... if you are sending stuff from home, SEND IT TO YOURSELF AT YOUR SCHOOL!!!

There is someone there to receive it, it won't go astray and you will get it promptly.
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My friend did have it addressed to his school, but the post office decided to deliver it somewhere else anyway.

I think the idea is that it didnt mysteriously disappear (he thinks the lady stole it).

I dont know what the package's value, but I doubt it's worth a lawsuit. However, Im really surprised that this country has an "oh well" attitude about missing deliveries (or thats what I take from this board). This is basically theft in my opinion.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry let me clarify.

By wrong address it wasnt delivered to someone "across the hall" or "downstairs". It was delivered to a completely different area of town (which is a huge area but still rural).
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:

Does the post office let anyone sign for anything? Can I go to the OP's house, stand in front and sign for his possessions, then take them? Sounds like a good deal.


I guess that this will come as a surprise to you but you can do the same thing back in the states. If you sit in front of your friends house and the post man thinks you live there, he will most likely let you sign for the package. If you are actually IN the house and answer the door when the post man comes, he's definitely going to let you sign for the package.

If you were back home and the post man came to your door and asked you to sign for a package with foreign writing on it, would you actually inspect it before deciding if you're going to sign for it? Would you really waste the post man's time (and possibly lose a package that was intended for you)? No, you'd sign for it and when you later realized that it's not for you, you'd probably give it back to the post man or drop it in the mail box.

So, to answer your original question - No. There's nothing "your friend" can do about it. Life sucks. Move on.
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BringTheRain



Joined: 26 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'll lose his other package if he doesn't stand up to the postal service in this one.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
BoholDiver wrote:

Does the post office let anyone sign for anything? Can I go to the OP's house, stand in front and sign for his possessions, then take them? Sounds like a good deal.


If you were back home and the post man came to your door and asked you to sign for a package with foreign writing on it, would you actually inspect it before deciding if you're going to sign for it? Would you really waste the post man's time (and possibly lose a package that was intended for you)? No, you'd sign for it and when you later realized that it's not for you, you'd probably give it back to the post man or drop it in the mail box.

So, to answer your original question - No. There's nothing "your friend" can do about it. Life sucks. Move on.


If I were back home in the states, and I got a mysterious package from a foreign address that I knew nothing about, I would be an idiot NOT to check it.

As far as wasting the post man's time, I could care less, his job is to deliver mail, and he gets paid pretty well to do it....so yes...I would make him wait while I tried to figure out what the deal was...but this is all assuming that I wouldnt know the package was coming.

I guess some people will put their signature on anything. I wont.

Regarding the "your friend"...if it was me I would just say so. This is an internet message board and I'll never meet anyone from here so I could give two $h!ts.

The only thing I agree with you on is that he should move on.

thanks!
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a jpeg of my address written in both Korean and English to my family and friends. I've still had problems with packages. One was sent to the wrong building, then sent back to the states. Another came 2 months after arriving in Korea, even though I called the post office often (I use the PO online tracker every time a parcel is sent).

The post office here isn't as efficient as back home. I have the same jpeg of my address on my ipod thingie, and I've gone to the post office asking where my parcels are.

6 have come through. 3 have had problems. I've used fedex as well, and it's far better, though costs a fortune. One larger parcel cost nearly $350 to send, but it was important, so I wired my mother the money.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have it sent to my workplace. Usually, never fails to arrive.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
I would have it sent to my workplace. Usually, never fails to arrive.


Even the Koreans at my school get packages sent to them at work, often stuff that they bought online. So that's probably pretty good advice.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
But the woman needs to know how badly she MOD EDIT I get sick of old people here doing stupid shit like that without thinking.

If the woman knows how mad he is, that might knock some sense into her.

Does the post office let anyone sign for anything? Can I go to the OP's house, stand in front and sign for his possessions, then take them? Sounds like a good deal.


Changing an entire culture, by being a bastard to one person at a time, right? Rolling Eyes
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I mentioned earlier that he did have it addressed to his work address (a school) but the delivery person sent it to some place completly unrelated anyway.

Sounds to me like the Korean post office is even less reliable than the USPS.

From what Ive read so far, I'm only having something mailed if I can live with never receiving it (maybe some clothes or a book). If it's something expensive (electronics) I'm having it come Fed Ex.

So much for mailing a money order like someone suggested in another thread.
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