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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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 Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: U.S. Citizen Held for 3 Days by Immigration, Despite I.D. |
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Eduardo Caraballo, a U.S. citizen born in the United States, was detained for over three days on suspicion of being an illegal immigrant.
Despite presenting identifying documents and even his birth certificate, Caraballo was held by federal immigration authorities over the weekend and threatened with deportation, according to an NBC Chicago report. He was only released when his congressman, Luis Gutierrez -- a vocal supporter of immigration reform -- intervened on his behalf.
(Scroll down for video of Caraballo and Rep. Gutierrez.)
Caraballo was born in Puerto Rico, making him a natural-born citizen of the United States. He moved to the mainland as an infant, and now lives in Chicago.
Last week, NBC reports that he was arrested in connection with a stolen car in Berwyn. Caraballo maintains his innocence. In any case, when his mother posted bail on Friday, he was not freed.
"Instead of being released, he was told by authorities that Immigration and Customs Enforcement was detaining him because he was an illegal immigrant," NBC reports.
Caraballo spent the weekend in the custody of federal immigration agents. When he presented them with ID and his birth certificate, he says officials were skeptical: "Because of the way I look, I have Mexican features, they pretty much assumed that my papers were fake."
Only after his congressman interceded was Caraballo set free.
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Note that this did not occur in Arizona. It does, however, show the problem with expecting authority figures to use their judgment when it comes to detaining and arresting people based on suspicion that they may not be residents. This man had identification that proved he was a U.S. citizen and was still held.
Time and again we see why immigration law needs to focus on removing the incentive of illegal immigrants to come here by preventing employers from illegally hiring them rather than trying to crack down on them as individuals. No, we don't need to piss away money on predator drones on the Mexican border (an actual request from Republicans). What we need is to work with incentives. Eliminate Mexican criminals smuggling drugs by legalizing drugs. Eliminate illegal workers by preventing companies from hiring them illegally. This is far more humane, it will be far more effective in the long term, and best of all it doesn't involve American citizens spending time in Federal custody simply because they look Mexican. |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
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| Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. Citizen Held for 3 Days by Immigration, Despite I.D |
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| Fox wrote: |
Article here.
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Eduardo Caraballo, a U.S. citizen born in the United States, was detained for over three days on suspicion of being an illegal immigrant.
Despite presenting identifying documents and even his birth certificate, Caraballo was held by federal immigration authorities over the weekend and threatened with deportation, according to an NBC Chicago report. He was only released when his congressman, Luis Gutierrez -- a vocal supporter of immigration reform -- intervened on his behalf.
(Scroll down for video of Caraballo and Rep. Gutierrez.)
Caraballo was born in Puerto Rico, making him a natural-born citizen of the United States. He moved to the mainland as an infant, and now lives in Chicago.
Last week, NBC reports that he was arrested in connection with a stolen car in Berwyn. Caraballo maintains his innocence. In any case, when his mother posted bail on Friday, he was not freed.
"Instead of being released, he was told by authorities that Immigration and Customs Enforcement was detaining him because he was an illegal immigrant," NBC reports.
Caraballo spent the weekend in the custody of federal immigration agents. When he presented them with ID and his birth certificate, he says officials were skeptical: "Because of the way I look, I have Mexican features, they pretty much assumed that my papers were fake."
Only after his congressman interceded was Caraballo set free.
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Note that this did not occur in Arizona. It does, however, show the problem with expecting authority figures to use their judgment when it comes to detaining and arresting people based on suspicion that they may not be residents. This man had identification that proved he was a U.S. citizen and was still held.
Time and again we see why immigration law needs to focus on removing the incentive of illegal immigrants to come here by preventing employers from illegally hiring them rather than trying to crack down on them as individuals. No, we don't need to piss away money on predator drones on the Mexican border (an actual request from Republicans). What we need is to work with incentives. Eliminate Mexican criminals smuggling drugs by legalizing drugs. Eliminate illegal workers by preventing companies from hiring them illegally. This is far more humane, it will be far more effective in the long term, and best of all it doesn't involve American citizens spending time in Federal custody simply because they look Mexican. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| "I was borrrrrn in East LA!!" |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes . My hometown newspaper is full of letters calling for the government to start punishing employers who hire illegals, and my home town is as redneck as you can get. the ARizona law which I do not think will actually ever be enforced was an attempt to get the federal government to do something, to have some sort of consistent policy. There also needs to be an efort by the Mexican government to REFORM its self. A guest worker program is probably what is needed but the big companies dont want that. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| There also needs to be an efort by the Mexican government to REFORM its self. |
While this would be good, our national policy cannot predicate itself upon Mexico's compliance or cooperation. Mexico really doesn't seem to care how the United States is affected by any of this, and given their situation that's hardly surprising.
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| A guest worker program is probably what is needed but the big companies dont want that. |
Of course they don't. The status quo is preferable to them in nearly every way so long as the law is enforced in a lax fashion. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| We dont have a national policy!! Thats why the Arizona craziness! Except it's not crazy it is an attempt to force some sort of effort to sort the mess out. Everyone knows that it is corporations that want the illegals here and people are tired of the government taking the corporations side on the issue. The illegals are used, abused then deported. the American worker stays unemployed the corporations get richer. Legal immigrants are the ones hurt worst by the illegals. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| We dont have a national policy!! Thats why the Arizona craziness! Except it's not crazy it is an attempt to force some sort of effort to sort the mess out. Everyone knows that it is corporations that want the illegals here and people are tired of the government taking the corporations side on the issue. The illegals are used, abused then deported. the American worker stays unemployed the corporations get richer. Legal immigrants are the ones hurt worst by the illegals. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with this:
http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=6306
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Arizona doesn�t have an illegal immigration problem; Arizona has an organized crime violence problem. What created the incentives for organized crime (and its penchant for violence) to develop? Well, the War on Drugs, of course.
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The United States doesn�t have an illegal immigration problem; it has a government entitlements problem. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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