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UK CRB/Subject Access and E-2 Visa
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Scatman



Joined: 22 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: UK CRB/Subject Access and E-2 Visa Reply with quote

I've been looking all over on information regarding background checks and so on, and yet I am still non the wiser. I've looked into disclosure scotland (SS) and also subject access report and i am totally unsure which is suitable. I've seen information saying SS is only suitable in UK and not immigration abroad, however on my local police site they say SS is a government approved agency, which would mean it should be accepted right? Also on the police site it says that the subject access is not a vetting/criminal record check. All very confusing and slightly contradicting! Especially in light of the refusal of USA online checks as SS is an online process

Therefore i was wondering if any of the UK Forum users have used either of these methods, if so have they been accepted by immigration?

Thanks for your comments!

http://www.southyorks.police.uk/subjectaccess.php
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rhinocharge64



Joined: 20 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't get a CRB check unless you are a registerd, I know this from my teaching days back in the U.K. You need to contact your local county who have an office to do the process. I had to do this way back in 2006, and no I don't work at a bloody Hogwon nor a public school, hence why I had to do said check before the E2 regulations kicked in this year. The process takes up to 40 days and costs a red back, that's a tenner to you mate. There is a massive thread on this site so if you flick through the pages you will find it. That will definitely confirm if I'm 100% correct, you never know with those monkeys in immi or is that kimmi. On a final note I see the summer is shite, I never know why people complain so much about Korea, I tell them to go and live in blighty for a year!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing However, I don't work in a hogwon, or for a bloody P.S. I'm International with a capital I and more than a 2 week vacation.
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Hootsmon



Joined: 22 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okies...I can tell you what I know because today I went to the British Embassy with criminal check in hand and got it notarised, so it's all ready for immigration.

As a disclaimer, other people have had other experiences and there may be other ways. I just know this one works.

If you're in the UK, walk into your local police station (or contact via e-mail to get all the forms and requirements), take some ID, such as your passport, drivers licence, utility bills and the like (better to be safe and take as much as you can) and ask for the Subject Access Report. On the form, check that you want the one from the National Police Computer as well as your local check.

The local check only takes a few days but the British Embassy here told me that they had to use the national one. The national check took a bit longer...about a month.

That is a check that immigration will definitely accept. They may accept others...I dunno, I'm sure other people have talked about using Disclosure Scotland...but that one is good for sure. Then you need to do all the notarising, apostling lark...unless you're in Korea, then it's actually pretty easy - just a visit to the Embassy.

Any other questions, let me know.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the thread you want - http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=108328

I believe both Subject Access and Basic Disclosure (Disclosure Scotland) are acceptable, however, Subject Access is the more comprehensive one (it'll show cautions which means some people can't use it).

I read Basic Disclosure is acceptable - it is not necessarily an online check.

I am going with Basic Disclosure because I can't get back home - I hope to hell immi will take it......
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daz1979



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Basic Disclosure from Disclosure Scotland was accepted.
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Scatman



Joined: 22 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies so far.
I will look at getting a copy of both. My only concern is i have a driving conviiction from 2002 an IN10 driving with no insurance http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvY5ymE.LxcA9M66eFzIxrTsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080723124859AAgy85T
Im extremely worried this is going to show on my check and therefore prohibit me from gettng a visa Crying or Very sad
Barring this i know my record is as clean as a whistle.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basic Disclosure shows convictions and not cautions. Email Disclosure Scotland - they should be able to tell you whether what you've got will show up.

Subject Access will show everything.

I don't know what immigration will say about it though. Contact them direct?
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rhinocharge64



Joined: 20 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will show up forever, I got the same repone back in 2006, the U.K. is quite literally big furking brother.
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Scatman



Joined: 22 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive applied to disclosure scotland and will be doing police check soon so fingers crossed. I managed to speak to embassy toowho say that either check should be suitable, but they didnt sound so sure.
I also enquired about the conviction which the lady said if i appllied for a visa i would have to attend an interview at the Embassy and would get chance to discuss my conviction there but motoring convictions are generally accepted, although again she sounded unsure.
Guess we'll wait and see.
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stuey11



Joined: 13 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

so...its that time of year again.

Will a disclosure scotland form be accepted by immgration without being stamped by a uk lawyer first??....i really need to know because i'm running out of time
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: .. Reply with quote

stuey11 wrote:
so...its that time of year again.

Will a disclosure scotland form be accepted by immgration without being stamped by a uk lawyer first??....i really need to know because i'm running out of time


I don't think so but it probably depends on the immigration officer you see. Do you have someone in the UK who can get it stamped for you?
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shiloe



Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: usa

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Criminal Background Check for Korean Job Reply with quote

I also need to get a criminal background check, but I am in the USA.
In the USA, criminal records are public information which further enhances public safety on billions of occasions because ordinary citizens have free access to information that can warn them about criminals in their midst, be it follow employees, neighbors, nannies, dates, or anyone the law abiding citizens suspect could threaten them. This protective information is so popular that an entire industry has developed to collect criminal record information from courthouses nationwide and provide to the public in the form of a convenient searchable database via the Internet. For example, a typical pre-employment screen background search includes Verification of identity, SSN, employment history, education, and address history. Checks of State and county criminal records, sexual offender, terrorist watch, credit check, bankruptcy, Federal criminal records.
These private companies can do a background search in a few minutes, but I do not think that that background search qualifies for a visa or immigration. I think we need to get one done by the State Police (the USA has 50 states), and the State Police must include a nationwide background check by the FBI. Then, the U.S. government State Department must certify the background check.
I am just not sure of the procedure needed for a person in the USA to go to Korea.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: ,, Reply with quote

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bish



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I right in thinking that a Subject Access (with the two blue bands at the top and bottom) does not need a notary, but the Basic Disclosure does?
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