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livingthedream



Joined: 16 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:47 pm    Post subject: Rural Allowance??? Reply with quote

Does does anybody have know exactly what are criteria for schools paying , " rural allowance'?

I'm at a school in the countryside in Gyeonggi that is 40-50mins by bus from my home. There's nowhere to live near the school as there's no accomodation nearby.......

Would appreciate any help........


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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an idea...ask your boss if it's rural.

Another question...what exactly does it mean to be at a school that is "40-50 minutes from the school?" That part is a bit confusing.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: Rural Allowance??? Reply with quote

livingthedream wrote:
Does does anybody have know exactly what are criteria for schools paying , " rural allowance'?

I'm at a school in Gyeonggi that is 40-50mins from the school, which is in the countryside. There's nowhere to live near the school as there's no accomodation nearby.......

Would appreciate any help........


As far as I'm aware, there is no genuine standard; it's entirely based on POE discretion. For example, in Gangwon all cities except Wonju and Chuncheon are considered rural.

In short, if you ask if you can have a rural allowance and they say no, you have no recourse.
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livingthedream



Joined: 16 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Fox. I thought there must be some criteria for rural allowance, but I guess not. I was asking just so I could be informed before asking the school. It's always better to know where you stand before asking.
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Zeeto



Joined: 12 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rural Allowance??? Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
For example, in Gangwon all cities except Wonju and Chuncheon are considered rural.



Gangneung doesn't get rural allowance. Does Sokcho? Donghae? I don't know.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem. Last year I lived in a small rural town, and I received the Rural Allowance. It was only 20 mins by train, or 30 mins by express bus, from a major city. This town wasn't wasn't isolated at all.

Imagine my surprise when I got to my new school. It's isolated, and on a mountain, in a really rural village. There are cows on the main street sometimes. I even saw a cow pulling a cart last week, and twice a week the main streets are turned into a huge open market.

My school couldn't (read wouldn't) find me 'suitable' accommodation in my rural village, so I have to commute to a nearby major city. I spend 2 to 2 + 1/2 hours a day commuting (waiting, busing, walking).

I don't get the Rural Allowance, and the POE has refused to pay it. I made a formal case, and requested a transfer. The POE had lots of smiley apologetic excuses why they wouldn't pay, but they wouldn't budge. In the end, the district supervisor brushed me off with the Korean management tactic of criticising me (that means "go away, we are not going to help you").

This unfortunate situation has soured my relationship with my school, the POE, and ruined what could have been a wonderful year at this school. I'm cut off from other GET's now, as I'm not allowed to go to any GET meetings etc (where the District Supervisor is obviously dodging me).

I'd suggest you drop your case to get a Rural Allowance. You won't get it, and your efforts won't make your year a happy one. Basically, I think not paying these Rural Allowances is just another case of 'Bait and Switch', whereby a Korean employer doesn't follow through on advertised benefits.

Good luck.

PS: I can't describe why the school couldn't find me 'suitable' accommodation yet , but I will post this situation in full at the end of my contract.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Rural Allowance??? Reply with quote

Zeeto wrote:
Fox wrote:
For example, in Gangwon all cities except Wonju and Chuncheon are considered rural.



Gangneung doesn't get rural allowance. Does Sokcho? Donghae? I don't know.


Really? At orientation we were told all cities except the two I listed. Either that's changed, or we were given false information.

In any case, the overwhelming majority of locations do receive it.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
This unfortunate situation has soured my relationship with my school, the POE, and ruined what could have been a wonderful year at this school. I'm cut off from other GET's now, as I'm not allowed to go to any GET meetings etc (where the District Supervisor is obviously dodging me).


What do you mean you're not allowed to go to GET meetings? You were outright banned?
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with EPIK and was promised a rural allowance at last years August Orientation.

I rang the same Supervisor who had promised me to see where it was. She admitted to me that she had told me I'd be getting a rural allowance but that a head Accountant had said I wouldn't, so no allowance, she said until this March, It still hasn't arrived.

My accomadation costs 500 000 Won which is 100 000 Won more than it should. So I think the accountant has just deducted my rural allowance to balance the books. That said Geoje Do is considered a City by the Education board.

As my VP, Co-teacher and I said in ph calls to the Supervisor I live 7k's from my nearest school and 7 k's from the nearest Supermarket, in opposite directions. I agree with aprevious poster its left a very sour taste in my mouth and I'm probably out of here when my contracts up.

I was told early on by a Korean friend that the POE Supervisor was just lying to me about getting the rural allowance, she was right.... and I'm a fool for believing the Supervisor's BS
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
oldfatfarang wrote:
This unfortunate situation has soured my relationship with my school, the POE, and ruined what could have been a wonderful year at this school. I'm cut off from other GET's now, as I'm not allowed to go to any GET meetings etc (where the District Supervisor is obviously dodging me).


What do you mean you're not allowed to go to GET meetings? You were outright banned?


No, I'm not banned. I've been side-lined - the Korean way. That is, I was scheduled to go to an EPIK 2 day training conference, and that was cancelled at the last minute (my VP said I couldn't miss the 3 classes I had to teach). Also, I was also scheduled to attend a neighboring GET's open lesson, and my attendance was also cancelled at the 11th hour (supposedly, I had to teach the 1 lesson I would have missed).

I've been here a while, and I know there's no coincidences in Korea. I know the district supervisor doesn't want to look me in the face.

Enough said. I'll post the full story at contract end.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEPIK and EPIK should post the list of rural schools/areas on their websites. Problem solved.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
GEPIK and EPIK should post the list of rural schools/areas on their websites. Problem solved.


That's too logical. Also, it would mean that they couldn't attract people to many rural locations.

I think the whole -"We can't tell you where you're going - because we don't know until the last day of orientation" - is deceptive.

But that's how things work, and they aren't going to change. That is, 2,500 applicants for 830 jobs means they don't need to change any hiring or employment practices at the moment.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
But that's how things work, and they aren't going to change. That is, 2,500 applicants for 830 jobs means they don't need to change any hiring or employment practices at the moment.


Did they really get that many applicants? I figure in the 1000 range, like in the SMOE case when they had 100 extra people they didn't know what to do with.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
oldfatfarang wrote:
But that's how things work, and they aren't going to change. That is, 2,500 applicants for 830 jobs means they don't need to change any hiring or employment practices at the moment.


Did they really get that many applicants? I figure in the 1000 range, like in the SMOE case when they had 100 extra people they didn't know what to do with.


I can't verify the number. I probably read it on Daves, but I know EPIK were swamped with new applicant for the last 2 intakes.
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