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meowzaX3



Joined: 12 May 2010
Location: En route to Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Living with relatives instead of taking free room? Reply with quote

So I'm in the process of finding a teaching position in Korea and I have family in Seoul and Busan. My mom is convinced that the schools give you the money for the apartments, and by living with family in either city, I can end up saving more money. I can't help but think that's not possible...
So my question is, do the schools give you the money for living, therefore making the above financial plan possible? Or do they pay for the aparments directly, with none of that money going through me?

Thanks guys!
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With public schools, if you tell them in advance you can opt-out of an apartment and get money instead. EPIK pays 400,000/month if you do this.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the school. Public schools definitely yes. SMOE pays 500,000.
Private academies can be pretty cheap with the housing allowance, often just like 300,000. But then again, it it is a hagwon and they already have a place paid for with jeonse, or are stuck in a lease, they won't give you money, so it really depends on the school. Gotta ask!
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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well housing is never "free"....or people would be getting paid 2.7m instead 2.2m (average hagwon salary roughly(?) for example) a month......you will get a housing allowance instead if you don't stay in the PS/hagwon's accommodation. As already mentioned typically 300-500k a month depending where you live.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also factor in where your family is and where your job will be.

Since you qualify for an F4 (Korean bloodline) visa why not come over first and then look for a job? It would take the strain of travel uncertainties. Shocked
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you WANT to live with your family?
You might make friends you want to bring home, or you might want to stay out late at night. Your family will not approve of this..
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother telling your potential employer, specifically, what your plans are. Just make it known that you will find your own accom. and want the allowance. If you mention staying with family, then they are likely to use it against you, to try and get out of paying it to you.
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furtakk



Joined: 02 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Do you WANT to live with your family?
You might make friends you want to bring home, or you might want to stay out late at night. Your family will not approve of this..


this.
hagwons (if they offer it) will give you as low as 200 up to around 400,000. the public schools have their own standard as posted. either way, not worth the stress of living with family to save and extra 2-4K imo.
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meowzaX3



Joined: 12 May 2010
Location: En route to Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure about how I feel about living with my family. It'd just be my cousin though in Busan in a 3 bedroom. He's in his late 20s I think and I'm 23 so I can't imagine it'd be too awkward.

I just graduated from college though, and I have a lot of debt to pay off so the extra money might be preferable to having the freedom to parade friends in and out of my place.

I haven't made any concrete decisions yet, so I might end up just taking the room they provide.

Thanks for the advice everyone! Smile
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While pocketing a housing allowance while living with your family for free is ethically questionable I am sure many people do it.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
While pocketing a housing allowance while living with your family for free is ethically questionable I am sure many people do it.


How would that possibly be considered ethically questionable? Our salary levels reflect the fact that the schools pay for our housing, if the school does not need to pay for housing then they should be paying a higher salary to compensate for that fact. What an employee does with their money is their business.

That being said....unless you already know your family very well, you could be setting yourself up for a disaster. If you take the housing allowance and then it doesn't work out with your family then you'd be stuck putting down a huge deposit on a new place and probably wouldn't be getting enough of an allowance to pay your rent.

Also...how is your Korean? Clearly you are ethnically Korean, but did you grow up in a house that was more akin to a Korean home or American? (assuming you are American as most gyopos are, so don't bite my head off if you're Canadian or Australian) If you are already used to truly living with Korean culture then it could work, but it could be huge culture shock if you're not.

Then again, you'd not only save on rent but on internet, cable, gas, electricity, and so on.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
While pocketing a housing allowance while living with your family for free is ethically questionable I am sure many people do it.

I don't see how this is ethically questionable unless the contract states that housing allowance is forfeited if not used for housing.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, do you really want to live with your relatives? Also depends if you're male or female.

I'd advise you to take the place, and don't live with your relatives. It's easy hanging with your relatives and mooch food off of them without living with them. If you have cousins in the the same age range you can get them to introduce you to other people.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
While pocketing a housing allowance while living with your family for free is ethically questionable I am sure many people do it.


Not an ethical problem at all, just good financial sense

Dunno about living with family or a family member you hardly know though....... that could be a recipe for disaster. Just sit down and write down all the pros and cons, for me the cons would far outweigh the pros.

Nothing beats independance and making your own decisions and choices in life
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aphase



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as someone who also has family in korea, I would advise NOT living with family. Your cousin could be ok, I lived with one of my cousins for a year when he was a student at KOrea University, but it's still not entirely comfortable. Also, if you take a girl home, the girl might not feel completely comfortable with the idea of staying over at your place where your other family members also live.


Oh yeah, to whoever said it was ethically questionable pocketing the money, it's not. "Free-Housing" and "Housing-Allowance" are not free. Your working for that.
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