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amcnutt
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: E2 visa application (been to cuba) |
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Hi all,
I'm in the middle of filling out my E2 Visa application and have come across the section where they ask what countries you have lived in/traveled to in the last 5 years. In that time period i have been to the US (Boston) and Cuba.
I am slightly worried about listing Cuba on my application, although I think I will put it as I am very honest and don't want to lie.
Would that be a problem? When I went to Cuba they didn't stamp my passport, explaining to my group that visiting their country may prove difficult for us in getting into other countries. I went with Dalhousie University for the Cuban Intensive Program (International Development field) and it was very educational and harmless.
I know that South Korea has its tensions with North Korea, and I am afraid that they will see that I went to Cuba and assume I am a hard-core Communist or something.
However, tons of Canadians go to Cuba every winter for a warm vacation, so it's not that unusual.
Has anyone come across this issue/have any thoughts on the matter? |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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That's the same way I think they brainwashed the Manchurian cadidate.  |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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You're telling us that your own government doesn't know that you've been to Cuba. So do as you wish on your application.  |
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amcnutt
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ramen wrote: |
You're telling us that your own government doesn't know that you've been to Cuba. So do as you wish on your application.  |
MY government knows I've been to Cuba. Dalhousie has had a longstanding and respected international program with the University of Havana for many years. Plus Canada and Cuba are long-term international trading partners.
The only reason Cuba did not stamp my passport is because the United States apparently can give me crap for going to Cuba if I want to visit the U.S., although I am not an American citizen nor a Communist...so why should they care, or you for that matter?
I have done nothing wrong and it's sad that I even have to worry about this.
We live in a democracy right???  |
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lazyslacker
Joined: 03 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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If there is no way for anyone to find out that you've been to Cuba, don't mention it. I mean, if you're worried about it, why risk it? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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What a stupid post. Ooooh, ooooh, I'm so honest. Should I lie? |
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amcnutt
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks lazyslacker for the only serious answer not riddled with sarcasm. I don't think it's a bad thing that I don't want to lie on my application. I am an honest person and would be uncomfortable being untruthful....
And it's not a stupid question, it is probably relevant to many Canadians (and others) who have been to Cuba.
I guess I will address this post to people who have actually BEEN to Cuba and gone to Korea, since those of you who haven't (and are posting on this) are probably American with snarky attitudes towards certain countries. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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It's a health-related question, dude. People from certain countries are more likely to carry certain diseases. Your moral superiority schtick grows irritating. |
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amcnutt
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Do you know anything about other countries besides your own? Cuba has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, better than many developed nations. (ie the US...seen Sicko?) And no, I didn't see anyone there with infectious diseases, like leprosy or rabies
Your ignorance is getting irritating, IMO
Back to the topic, I am looking for responses that actually target my question directly....  |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a problem with snarkiness, Korea might not be the place for you. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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The United States, as part of its embargo, does not explicitly allow its citizens to visit Cuba. Americans can, however, get to Cuba by a third country. While not terribly common, it happens more than the US State Department may care to talk about
You do not need to list Cuba. While technically dishonest, I am unaware of any screening process they could use -- short of calling up your university and somehow compel them to release private information -- that could reveal that you've been to Cuba.
The Cuban embargo is pretty much a joke. It wasn't even about communism at first -- instead, it was a protest of the new "revolutionary" government taking over the property and business interests of American citizens in Cuba. The embargo has become tighter over the years, especially under Clinton.
Technically speaking, the embargo isn't necessarily political but instead economic. In fact, there is no law against Americans traveling to Cuba -- just as long as you don't spend any money while you're there. You read right: Americans are forbidden from spending money in Cuba. Ironic, cocnsidering the economic advocacy of many nationals visiting Burma and spending like crazy people to support the people and avoiding all government owned services.
It's all baloney. It's all about catering to the Cuban American voters. A real shame. |
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amcnutt
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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.38 Special wrote: |
The United States, as part of its embargo, does not explicitly allow its citizens to visit Cuba. Americans can, however, get to Cuba by a third country. While not terribly common, it happens more than the US State Department may care to talk about
You do not need to list Cuba. While technically dishonest, I am unaware of any screening process they could use -- short of calling up your university and somehow compel them to release private information -- that could reveal that you've been to Cuba.
The Cuban embargo is pretty much a joke. It wasn't even about communism at first -- instead, it was a protest of the new "revolutionary" government taking over the property and business interests of American citizens in Cuba. The embargo has become tighter over the years, especially under Clinton.
Technically speaking, the embargo isn't necessarily political but instead economic. In fact, there is no law against Americans traveling to Cuba -- just as long as you don't spend any money while you're there. You read right: Americans are forbidden from spending money in Cuba. Ironic, cocnsidering the economic advocacy of many nationals visiting Burma and spending like crazy people to support the people and avoiding all government owned services.
It's all baloney. It's all about catering to the Cuban American voters. A real shame. |
Thanks! I may not list it, but am afraid that they will find out somehow....Has anyone's university been contacted and asked private information about their studies/travels?
It seems a bit extreme and I'm guessing probably not... |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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The only country pissing about Cuba is the US.
It is a non-issue for entry to Korea.
They ask about your travels as a standard policy (the same for most (all?) countries visa applications).
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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amcnutt wrote: |
I have done nothing wrong and it's sad that I even have to worry about this.
We live in a democracy right???  |
Well, YOU live in that weak-willed sister to democracy that trades with the weak-willed sister to the Axis of Evil.
maybe you just did it for healthcare. that portly pinko lover Michael Moore seemed to popularize our Caribbean neighbors for health vacations...
But soon, that despot Castro is going to keel over, and God willing, the next Bay of Pigs Invasion will go through without a hitch, and good ol' fashioned US capitalism can take root, and soon the rum and gambling will flow as they did back before those commie heathens invaded the western hemisphere. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: |
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amcnutt wrote: |
Do you know anything about other countries besides your own? Cuba has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, better than many developed nations. (ie the US...seen Sicko?) And no, I didn't see anyone there with infectious diseases, like leprosy or rabies
Your ignorance is getting irritating, IMO
Back to the topic, I am looking for responses that actually target my question directly....  |
What in the world is wrong with you? When did I imply Cuba had inferior health? A country letting you through its borders has a right to know which countries you've been in in case of health concerns from that country, Cuba, Uganda, Canada, or any others. From time to time epidemics arise in certain countries. I'm sure the Cubans are as healthy as anyone, but unless I'm mistaken, the question did asked which countries you've been to, not if you've been to Cuba in particular. Anyways, you seem to have some kind of chip on your shoulder. You'll do just fine Korea with so many other of the outcasts you see around here. |
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