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WTP Trust
Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: Hittin' the books at Yonsei
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 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:37 am Post subject: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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I'm looking at jumping back into the fray of things after having been out of the teaching biz here in Korea for almost a year due to time studying at Yonsei's Korean language program.
I did the public school program but other than the vacation time and less contact hours, it seemed to me like a hogwan might be better this time around, specifically one of the afterschool programs.
So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
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austinmc86
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:43 am Post subject: |
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So far, so good for me. My boss is a real nice guy, the students are good and the teaching is easy. The biggest hassle is the kids misbehaving.
Though, with Hagwons its sometimes a crap shoot. Def. talk with another teacher there. |
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WTP Trust
Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: Hittin' the books at Yonsei
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| austinmc86 wrote: |
So far, so good for me. My boss is a real nice guy, the students are good and the teaching is easy. The biggest hassle is the kids misbehaving.
Though, with Hagwons its sometimes a crap shoot. Def. talk with another teacher there. |
That's basically the situation I'm looking for. Kids will always be like that here. At least having a class of 12 naughty runts is better than 40. At 40, you're just exercising crowd control 70% of the time. |
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Hardy Boy
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Location: I live in a shoe. Made in B.C., Northern Vancouver Island
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| WTP Trust wrote: |
| So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I've got a hagwon job that's pretty good despite no pension and some office politics.
You gotta make your priorities and pick and choose your battles. I have and I'm happy with what I've got, the cup three-quarters full. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| Hardy Boy wrote: |
| WTP Trust wrote: |
| So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I've got a hagwon job that's pretty good despite no pension and some office politics.
You gotta make your priorities and pick and choose your battles. I have and I'm happy with what I've got, the cup three-quarters full. |
Pension's a pretty big one though. I mean, it's basically like losing 4.5% of your salary from their contribution. Hopefully your salary, or apartment, or very short hours, or something makes up for it. |
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siborg69
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| mine is also pretty easy....4.5 hours a day at the minute, always paid on time, no issues with the owners or staff, classes are mostly 30 mins long, teaching is easy.....there's a spot going in september if you might be interested |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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mine is great-ish. my biggest complaint is it can be really dull and boring (especially 8 months in). the good thing is my director is really laid back and has no problem with me doing whatever i like (save going home) during free time. i usually spend it studying or online, but i also watch movies/tv from time to time and he never has a problem with this.
just do your homework. if you're in korea, visit the place beforehand. talk to teachers who work there, etc.
on an unrelated note: how was your year of studying? i'm currently doing one of the intensive programs at a university in my city along with working the afternoons and i'm starting to get burnt out. i also feel like i'm not learning as much as i could since i'm speaking english half the day. i've been considering taking some time off (maybe 6 months rather than a year) to just study, but i'm not sure yet. would you recommend it? did you work at all (PT) while you studied? |
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Von Ludwig
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| WTP Trust wrote: |
I'm looking at jumping back into the fray of things after having been out of the teaching biz here in Korea for almost a year due to time studying at Yonsei's Korean language program.
I did the public school program but other than the vacation time and less contact hours, it seemed to me like a hogwan might be better this time around, specifically one of the afterschool programs.
So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I am in agreement with the comments regarding doing plenty of research on any possible hagwons you are considering. You have the huge advantage of visiting the school before hand to add to that research. So are you wanting an easy job, i.e. relaxed work load? I think it is rewarding to work hard, but of course you want to work at a place that honors your contract, has fairly nice co-workers, and doesn�t give you unnecessary stress due to work place politics etc.
Oh, and last minute schedule changes are mostly unavoidable 
Good luck on your search! |
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WTP Trust
Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: Hittin' the books at Yonsei
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| Von Ludwig wrote: |
| WTP Trust wrote: |
I'm looking at jumping back into the fray of things after having been out of the teaching biz here in Korea for almost a year due to time studying at Yonsei's Korean language program.
I did the public school program but other than the vacation time and less contact hours, it seemed to me like a hogwan might be better this time around, specifically one of the afterschool programs.
So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I am in agreement with the comments regarding doing plenty of research on any possible hagwons you are considering. You have the huge advantage of visiting the school before hand to add to that research. So are you wanting an easy job, i.e. relaxed work load? I think it is rewarding to work hard, but of course you want to work at a place that honors your contract, has fairly nice co-workers, and doesn�t give you unnecessary stress due to work place politics etc.
Oh, and last minute schedule changes are mostly unavoidable
Good luck on your search! |
Yeah I know that about the last minute schedule changes. Not necessarily an easy work load, although I'm not some nutjob who thinks "it is rewarding to work hard"...honestly look at what you wrote. Do you really think your hard work is rewarded in Korea? Well, I guess it is...WITH MORE WORK!
HAHAHA!!! "I really like to work hard wonjeongnim, I really do. It's so rewarding. I'll work harder than I've ever worked for you." Then, fired 11 months and two weeks into the contract.
One more time, just for laughs: "I think it is rewarding to work hard." |
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Dragoon
Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| WTP Trust wrote: |
| Von Ludwig wrote: |
| WTP Trust wrote: |
I'm looking at jumping back into the fray of things after having been out of the teaching biz here in Korea for almost a year due to time studying at Yonsei's Korean language program.
I did the public school program but other than the vacation time and less contact hours, it seemed to me like a hogwan might be better this time around, specifically one of the afterschool programs.
So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I am in agreement with the comments regarding doing plenty of research on any possible hagwons you are considering. You have the huge advantage of visiting the school before hand to add to that research. So are you wanting an easy job, i.e. relaxed work load? I think it is rewarding to work hard, but of course you want to work at a place that honors your contract, has fairly nice co-workers, and doesn�t give you unnecessary stress due to work place politics etc.
Oh, and last minute schedule changes are mostly unavoidable
Good luck on your search! |
Yeah I know that about the last minute schedule changes. Not necessarily an easy work load, although I'm not some nutjob who thinks "it is rewarding to work hard"...honestly look at what you wrote. Do you really think your hard work is rewarded in Korea? Well, I guess it is...WITH MORE WORK!
HAHAHA!!! "I really like to work hard wonjeongnim, I really do. It's so rewarding. I'll work harder than I've ever worked for you." Then, fired 11 months and two weeks into the contract.
One more time, just for laughs: "I think it is rewarding to work hard." |
Haha..yeah that killed me too. "Sure Mr. 원장overlord..I'll work my hardest for you so you can become even richer. I'll break my waygook back for you master...even though you couldn't care whether I live or die." |
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Von Ludwig
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't work hard to make my boss richer, I work hard to see development in my students and to feel a sense of pride in myself. Simple as that.
Both your replies were immature and redundant. |
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WTP Trust
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Von Ludwig wrote: |
I don't work hard to make my boss richer, I work hard to see development in my students and to feel a sense of pride in myself. Simple as that.
Both your replies were immature and redundant. |
Teaching efficiently and working hard are not the same thing. You can teach efficiently with a minimal amount of work...unless English isn't your first language, as I suspect yours isn't. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Teaching efficiently and working hard are not the same thing. You can teach efficiently with a minimal amount of work |
Not true. If you've had the proper training and know what you're doing, your lessons will be more efficient the more time you spend on planning them. |
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Hardy Boy
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Location: I live in a shoe. Made in B.C., Northern Vancouver Island
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a mellow hogwan job? |
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| nukeday wrote: |
| Hardy Boy wrote: |
| WTP Trust wrote: |
| So is anyone having any luck these days hooking up with a decent hogwan gig...as in paid on time, no last minute schedule changes, honest deductions/payments for taxes/insurance/pension? |
I've got a hagwon job that's pretty good despite no pension and some office politics.
You gotta make your priorities and pick and choose your battles. I have and I'm happy with what I've got, the cup three-quarters full. |
Pension's a pretty big one though. I mean, it's basically like losing 4.5% of your salary from their contribution. Hopefully your salary, or apartment, or very short hours, or something makes up for it. |
I don't worry about 4.5%. I indeed love my apartment and love the city I'm in.
Some people look for the perfect hagwon and complain when their hagwon isn't providing everything. After years in this country I've seen that the happiest are those who appreciate what they have and take action if they aren't getting what they need. The rest are just petty axe-grinding quibblers who have unrealistic expectations and/or a penchance for whining. |
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Von Ludwig
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| WTP Trust wrote: |
| Von Ludwig wrote: |
I don't work hard to make my boss richer, I work hard to see development in my students and to feel a sense of pride in myself. Simple as that.
Both your replies were immature and redundant. |
Teaching efficiently and working hard are not the same thing. You can teach efficiently with a minimal amount of work...unless English isn't your first language, as I suspect yours isn't. |
And on what grounds do you suspect this? |
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