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mssinmymind
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: recruiters |
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Anyone willing to share contact info for the recruiters they use ? Or recommend ones that others have used, good ones of course ?
Send info to my email if you don't mind.
Thanx !! |
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wads
Joined: 26 May 2010
Location: Yongin
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Luke at smile english. He was great to work with!
[email protected] |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: recruiters |
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| mssinmymind wrote: |
Anyone willing to share contact info for the recruiters they use ? Or recommend ones that others have used, good ones of course ?
Send info to my email if you don't mind.
Thanx !! |
Really, when it comes to a recruiter, who cares?
A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
They are a necessary evil and a means to an end - nothing more.
Use as many as you need to find:
the job you want
in the place you want
with the terms that you want.
REPEAT: A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
Hello Mr. English speaker this is Mr Hakwon owner.
Mr. hakwon owner, this is Mr. English speaker.
Mr. English speaker, here is the contract. Please read and sign.
School, here is the signed contract. Pay me.
Good bye.
-You are not paying them anything (or you shouldn't be).
-THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU! - They work for the school.
-They owe you nothing once you get here.
-They are not your friend.
-They are not your baby sitter.
-They cannot help you if things go to *beep* after you get here.
Beyond that it is YOUR responsibility to check the school out.
Do NOT trust ANY recruiter. They are like used car salesmen. They will lie and sell their soul to get the signature on the contract.
Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE in regards to the school or get burned.
Use the recruiters for what they are. Use more than one and keep going until you get what you want. There is no rush and there is certainly no shortage of jobs.
When it comes to the school - again - repeat - Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk (directly and via e-mail) to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
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mssinmymind
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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wads: Thanx, I sent out an email already.
ttompatz: I think I've read your info before. Thanx for posting it again. It makes really good sense.
I'm about to start my 'search' for positions and am anxious to see the results.
One maybe naive question: Is it too much to request photos of the school and apartment as well ? Do I ask this of the recruiter or generally straight to the school ? |
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fergalreid
Joined: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Juno Suh from Korvia is a godsend and I recommend her in the same way I recommend oxygen. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| mssinmymind wrote: |
wads: Thanx, I sent out an email already.
ttompatz: I think I've read your info before. Thanx for posting it again. It makes really good sense.
I'm about to start my 'search' for positions and am anxious to see the results.
One maybe naive question: Is it too much to request photos of the school and apartment as well ? Do I ask this of the recruiter or generally straight to the school ? |
Time to ask is at the interview stage. Most "private" schools are nothing more than 1 floor on an office building - they are not usually stand-alone buildings.
It would be a good think to ask about housing before you commit but again, with MOST hakwons you can expect a "one-room"/bachelor apartment.
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: recruiters |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| mssinmymind wrote: |
Anyone willing to share contact info for the recruiters they use ? Or recommend ones that others have used, good ones of course ?
Send info to my email if you don't mind.
Thanx !! |
Really, when it comes to a recruiter, who cares?
A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
They are a necessary evil and a means to an end - nothing more.
Use as many as you need to find:
the job you want
in the place you want
with the terms that you want.
REPEAT: A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
Hello Mr. English speaker this is Mr Hakwon owner.
Mr. hakwon owner, this is Mr. English speaker.
Mr. English speaker, here is the contract. Please read and sign.
School, here is the signed contract. Pay me.
Good bye.
-You are not paying them anything (or you shouldn't be).
-THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU! - They work for the school.
-They owe you nothing once you get here.
-They are not your friend.
-They are not your baby sitter.
-They cannot help you if things go to *beep* after you get here.
Beyond that it is YOUR responsibility to check the school out.
Do NOT trust ANY recruiter. They are like used car salesmen. They will lie and sell their soul to get the signature on the contract.
Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE in regards to the school or get burned.
Use the recruiters for what they are. Use more than one and keep going until you get what you want. There is no rush and there is certainly no shortage of jobs.
When it comes to the school - again - repeat - Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk (directly and via e-mail) to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
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7777 |
You haven't met my recruiter. I must have hit the jackpot.
Mine not only gives support and asks what is going on, but I also got invited to a wedding in Jeju. They've also done get aways in Busan for other people under the same recruiter.
They have taken me out to dinner and paid for it.
Mine goes to bat with my hagwon when there are any violations of our contract or something isn't getting done in a timely manner.
Any time any form of negotiations need done over issues not in our contract, they go to bat for us.
My recruiter is a KFTRA member, and they keep their word as long as you keep yours. They consider keeping their image up an important thing.
They have helped myself as well as the other friends I know that use them with tough situations, including finding positions for people when their hagwon closes overnight, finding emergency birth control, getting release letters, and the list goes on and on.
korearecruiting.com
you won't regret it. |
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