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[mervanm]

I was wondering how to go about tutoring with a position at a public school? I was told that legally, you need a F-2 visa, but am unsure about how to get this. Is it possible to tutor without this visa or while teaching at a hagwon? Any first hand experience would be appreciated. Thank you!

[jonbowman88]

To get an F2 visa you must marry a Korean, additionally if you will look at your contract, it says that you may not have any other jobs at the same time.

[marlow]

Never happen legally. Technically you need a tutoring licence to not get in trouble, and you can't very well ask your local education office because you work there. Public schools will not allow it for their employees.

[Who's Your Daddy?]

I wouldn't ask your school. They'll be insulted you ask, will reject your request, and see you as only in it for the money. I don't see any positive in asking.

As a F holder you don't need their permission to work. But even as an F holder the school would probably say no. Just don't tutor in your school area, and they'll never know. If they find out, just apologize.

[rogue123]

my public school lets me tutor some of the teachers after school hours, for cash. and they wouldn't have a problem if i tutored students either. depends on the school. legal with school permission

[PatrickGHBusan]

It is not legal to tutor anyone for pay on the E2 visa...no matter what your school says. The school cannot give you legal permission to tutor.

They can offer you overtime classes in the school where you teach students or other teachers outside of your regular hours. This would then be paid as overtime and taxed.

The f-visa is for residents, it cannot be "gotten" easily. You basically need to marry a local or accumulate sufficient points to qualify, go to the immigration site to see how the points system works, note that points are given for Korean proficiency, knowledge of Korean history and culture, lenght of stay...

If you have a F-visa you CAN tutor but you MUST register with the local gu office and possibly immgration BEFORE you start tutoring in order to geta private tutoring liscence~permit. You will then declare the income and pay tax on it.

So if you are on an E2, there is no way you can teach private lessons legally.

[rogue123]

Standard GEPIK contract:
Article 15 (Office and Regulations and Restictions)
...
5. Without principal's permission, Employee shall not by employed or involved in other paid business (including part-time job).

i have principal's permission. therefore, it is casual

eat it..slowly

[PatrickGHBusan]

The thing is the principal cannot give you permission to tutor.....

That is illegal on an E2.

The clause you quote says you need permission to work at another location, which of course is the standard act for E2 teachers. You ask your employer permission, register with immigration and you can ty[pically legally work a second job under precise conditions.

You cannot under any circumstances teach private lessons legally....but go ahead and do what you want...

You CAN however tutor your schools students or teach workshops to other teachers in your school, this would have to be paid as overtime or as something that is part of your contractual hours.

Hint: if you get paid in cash, its illegal....

If you get paid and the income is taxed then you are being paid to tutor within the limits of your contracts on school grounds with students or teachers from your school...

Not gonna eat anything sorry...but you can keep thinking you are right if it pleases you...all is well.

Don't believe me...well don't take it from me...

Criteria for granting/denying
The permission will be denied if the change or addition is different from original staying purpose as stated in the employment contract

If the foreigner working in too many workplaces or is changing jobs too many times without any consistent pattern, he/she will be evaluated.

Should the foreigner be found to have poor work conduct or is in some way against Korea�s national interest, then any future change/addition to the workplace will be restricted.

If the added workplace should have longer work hours or higher salary than the original workplace, addition of workplace will be restricted.

Adding more than two workplaces beside the main workplace is prohibited.

Application Period for Permission of changing or adding workplace
Any change or addition to a foreigner�s workplace must be reviewed and granted in advance by the local Immigration

How to apply for permission for changing or adding workplace
Principal or the assigned agent must submit the required documents (See the documents by the status) to the local Immigration Office

http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/InfoDetailR_en.pt

So basically your employer cannot just give you permission verbally. Paperwork needs to be filed and permission needs to be obtained.

Have a good night.

[marlow]

PatrickGHBusan is right.

And the education office might not even give a person permission to tutor. There was a teacher on here a few years ago talking about the retarded conversation he had with Dongbu Education Office in Busan about their unwillingness to grant him that licence despite his F2.

[ontheway]

[PatrickGHBusan]

Good luck with your casual on the side teaching anyway rogue.

By the way, if your employer gives you "permission" to import heroin go ahead and do that do...I am sure its fine.

[CentralCali]

rogue: The principal is not your employer. The provincial (or metropolitan city) office of educatin is. You need permission from your employer, not your supervisor.

[rogue123]

legal with permission
am not gepik, tho use the similar contract
thus in this case the school is the employer
my principal is the don
nobody knows who lurks in the shadows, only the shadow knows
cashish cashish cashish
slowly chew, eat, and swallow
peeps on the f status think they're hot
but they're not
don't hate congratulate
the don said opium was cool to import, not heroin
there's a difference
get your facts straight
tho this is all rumor
and maybe just in jest
guess i gotta move, that
hefty tutoring war-chest
paperwork is overrated, only gentleman's agreements hold merit
i would never have actually violated any of the aforementioned stipulations so succinctly stipulated by our kind posters above
let us all sing, hold forth, give thanks, and pour libations for their earnest sharing of accurate information. they deserve a ribbon and/or high five