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Mikejelai
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 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: Will a cheap netbook work in the classroom (w/bigscreen TV)? |
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I am thinking about buying a cheap netbook (to be used for a variety of different things) and I need to know if a cheap netbook (about 400,000 won) will properly show HD videos (like the occasional youtube video, etc.) on the classroom big screen when hooked up?
I don't want to spend 700,000+ for one of the new ION netbooks, by the way. |
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bianca_dee
Joined: 14 Jun 2010
Location: United Kingdom
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| I was about to say the HP Mini 311 with the NVIDIA ION Graphics card. I actually was able to use it using an HDMI output. Works and handles videos really well. |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess the easiest thing to do is go to the computer store and try it out live. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Will a cheap netbook work in the classroom (w/bigscreen |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
I am thinking about buying a cheap netbook (to be used for a variety of different things) and I need to know if a cheap netbook (about 400,000 won) will properly show HD videos (like the occasional youtube video, etc.) on the classroom big screen when hooked up?
I don't want to spend 700,000+ for one of the new ION netbooks, by the way. |
There is a simple answer to this: NO. Even some of the ION netbooks crap out on 1080p material. Any Intel GMA equipped netbook will max out at SD (480p) material and some even stutter on that. Plus most netbooks don't have an HDMI-out port unless it has an ION chipset so it'd be a pain to try and hook up a non-ION netbook anyways.
The best option you have if you're really stuck on trying to work this out on your parameters and have a netbook is to finely optimize and tune a Broadcom-Crystal HD accelerated unit to run HD material which you can find instructions for online, but it's a hassle and only really works in a limited fashion.
If you don't plan on toting your future purchase to and fro, I'd suggest getting a custom built PC with basic proc, memory, gpu, etc. that will fit your needs for cheap OR get a pre-built solution like this (http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=179374132&pos_shop_cd=EN&pos_class_cd=90000001&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=nettop) that is extremely portable, cheap (USD 388.56) and has enough graphics muscle to accomplish what you want. Just keep an LCD at home and voila. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: |
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A cheap, underpowered netbook might be the worst investment in the history of electronics.
Go for 13'' or 14'' inch with a C2D processor if you want to be able to to more than play avi. files and surf the net. |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishfulthinking, when I copy/pasted the address it wouldn't open. Can you tell me which computer on Gmarket you are referring to? Thanks! |
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wormholes101
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Will a cheap netbook work in the classroom (w/bigscreen |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
| will properly show HD videos (like the occasional youtube video, etc.) |
Youtube isn't true HD |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
| Wishfulthinking, when I copy/pasted the address it wouldn't open. Can you tell me which computer on Gmarket you are referring to? Thanks! |
Mikejelai, go to gmarket and look up "nettop" then sort by price (high to low) then go to page 3. Any of those nettops around 375-400USD with an ION chipset would serve your needs and be ultra portable. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| Mikejelai wrote: |
| Wishfulthinking, when I copy/pasted the address it wouldn't open. Can you tell me which computer on Gmarket you are referring to? Thanks! |
Mikejelai, go to gmarket and look up "nettop" then sort by price (high to low) then go to page 3. Any of those nettops around 375-400USD with an ION chipset would serve your needs and be ultra portable. |
I got it to open by excluding the ().
That's one nice cheap portable computer. It's said to do 1080p, Blu-ray, and everything, but the most demanding gaming. It's only half the weight of my laptop at a feather weight 1.7kg!!! I want one, but have no real electronic payment method now that Paypal is suspended on Gmarket.
So all you do is hook up a keyboard, mouse, and monitor? I would prefer it include the English version of Windows 7 so I might need a retailer to get service.
Where is a retailer of ION330 Pro systems? |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
I got it to open by excluding the ().
That's one nice cheap portable computer. It's said to do 1080p, Blu-ray, and everything, but the most demanding gaming. It's only half the weight of my laptop at a feather weight 1.7kg!!! I want one, but have no real electronic payment method now that Paypal is suspended on Gmarket.
So all you do is hook up a keyboard, mouse, and monitor? I would prefer it include the English version of Windows 7 so I might need a retailer to get service.
Where is a retailer of ION330 Pro systems? |
Yes, all you need is a keyboard, mouse and monitor.
I'm not sure where to get it retail. Retail would be a headache though from my personal experiences and you wouldn't get it any cheaper than GMarket. I would recommend just giving money to a friend/co-teacher and have them buy it for you. |
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jhicks99
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Look into the Acer Timeline series. I have the 1810TZ.
The screen is 11.6", the battery can go for 8 hours on light use (3-4 for HD content), has HDMI output and best of all.. it's NOT a netbook. It's got a dual core CULV processor which utterly destroys any netbook out there and comes with 4GB ram. It ran me $500 in Canada. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| jhicks99 wrote: |
Look into the Acer Timeline series. I have the 1810TZ.
The screen is 11.6", the battery can go for 8 hours on light use (3-4 for HD content), has HDMI output and best of all.. it's NOT a netbook. It's got a dual core CULV processor which utterly destroys any netbook out there and comes with 4GB ram. It ran me $500 in Canada. |
For what he needs the Acer Timeline actually wouldn't be a good choice. All of the Timelines use Intel GMA integrated graphics which are horrible for playing HD content or video in general. It's not so much the CPU that would be his bottleneck, it'd be the GPU. For light use based on what he was asking about, a dual core Atom processor actually can do the job quite well but Intel's graphics solutions are laughable at best.
I still think the Ion nettop I originally posted is the ideal solution for the cost proposition. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Will a cheap netbook work in the classroom (w/bigscreen |
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| wormholes101 wrote: |
| Mikejelai wrote: |
| will properly show HD videos (like the occasional youtube video, etc.) |
Youtube isn't true HD |
Its not, but flash HD videos need a LOT more processing to display. The same computer that plays .H264 1080p content seamlessly will choke on 720p Flash video. |
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jhicks99
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:02 am Post subject: |
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For what he needs the Acer Timeline actually wouldn't be a good choice. All of the Timelines use Intel GMA integrated graphics which are horrible for playing HD content or video in general. It's not so much the CPU that would be his bottleneck, it'd be the GPU. For light use based on what he was asking about, a dual core Atom processor actually can do the job quite well but Intel's graphics solutions are laughable at best.
I still think the Ion nettop I originally posted is the ideal solution for the cost proposition. |
Strange comment since it handles 1080p output just fine and just as well as my other box with a dedicated ATI card outputting HDMI and much higher specs. It's best not to discount something without actually trying it. It would do just fine for his needs. For gaming I'll agree, it would be a massive letdown, but for simply outputting HD video and then having something that performs much closer to a laptop than a netbook the Timeline series is not a bad choice at all IMO. |
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