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What Happened to the 30 hr work week!!!! ?
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MrBondaygee



Joined: 20 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: What Happened to the 30 hr work week!!!! ? Reply with quote

Wow...I've been gone for only about 2 years and now I look at the job postings and their trying to make teachers work like 40 hrs or in some cases 45 hrs a week I see. What's happening here?

I spent nearly ten years in Korea and I recall the standard being 30 hrs a week.

I've also made a lot of English/Korean study videos if anyone is interested. (And will post a lot more) http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesbondaygee

So, what's up?

Cheers

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namerae



Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang, RoK

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the jobs I've been responding to have a 30 teaching-hour work week, with about 40hrs total per week. I would just glance over those with any more than that... probably just looking to net in people who don't know any better.

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So, what's up?


Nothing much, other than browsing Dave's during work hours. Cool You?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

competition in Seoul led directors and principals to rein in on the market and exploit teachers as much as possible.

also limits the after-hours tutoring that so many seek for extra income Surprised
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. Overall, Korea is going downhill for teachers.
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many teachers are coming here. They will work you to the bone during those 40-50 hrs per week. Mad
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tua111111



Joined: 20 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
Too many teachers are coming here. They will work you to the bone during those 40-50 hrs per week. Mad


Speak for yourself. I'm at work during the week for 40 hours, but including all my breaks and lunch I only work 30 hours.... I feel like it's well worth the salary I receive.
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, couldnt have anythig to do with the world economy could it?

And the fact that to MANY people ANY paycheck is a good one.

I know far too many American's and Canadians who can't get employment so Kra is a nice place to come.

Schools here don'thave to offer you the moon any more to get you here, and offering you a fairly easy 40 hour work week is not exactly "going downhill" as another poster put it.

You could alwasy go to Thailand and work the same hours for a fifth of the pay, or you could go to Japan and make a comparable wage and pay much more for your living costs.

I support a wife and a child, work for SMOE and stil save 2 milion a month for 22 hours. I don't call this "downhill" personally
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MrBondaygee



Joined: 20 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the updates! Reply with quote

I appreciate this bit of info. I had invested a lot of time and energy into my career in Korea. I know it means a lot to get a job right off the bat like this in Korea though for first timers. It's a special place for me too. Though, i have put in a lot of hours and am little bit fussy.

I was basically only curious to know what the current standards were. I had thought previously 30 hrs/week was like the law or something 'cause I had never heard of anything more than that.

Thanks for the input!!!
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 hours could mean 30 clock hours or it could mean 30 classes. 22 is standard for public school which is usually 22 classes a week, but I hear 30 hours is going to be in the some contracts starting this Fall. It's known that Chungnam province Cepik will start doing this in it's contracts offering a paltry 2.2 million won a month. Does this mean, "adios, amigo" to extra class pay? This wouldn't effect those who contracted for 22 hours a week until next February who started last March?

Anyone seeing contracts with more than 30 teaching hours a week written in them? If so, how much is the pay?
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sharkey



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work 17 hrs at a public school !
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another point: Koreans are having less children hence less children too teach.
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another point: Koreans are having less children hence less children too teach.


When talking about the future of ESL in the ROK, I'm surprised that this fact isn't discussed in greater length.

I honestly think that the next generation of teachers, Korean and foreign alike, are going be absolutely screwed. THe vast majority of ESL jobs here are for teaching kids. When the birthrate is what, 1.3? this can't be a good thing for Korea as a society and for the health of the ESL industry. I honestly think pay/conditions are going to get one heck of a lot lower within the next 15 years.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tua111111 wrote:
carleverson wrote:
Too many teachers are coming here. They will work you to the bone during those 40-50 hrs per week. Mad


Speak for yourself. I'm at work during the week for 40 hours, but including all my breaks and lunch I only work 30 hours.... I feel like it's well worth the salary I receive.


where are you from? no offence...
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exploitation.. as long as people take these jobs the conditions will keep getting worse! soon as china steps up their salaries to around 2000-2200 a month with housing..
then maybe you will see the conditions get better.. until then, its exploitation as usual! ive seen some schools still offering 1.9! hahahahaha

people probably take that ....can you believe that.. still cant blame them they are probably coming from the boonies back home where they were pumping gas for 3 bucks a hour.. so 1900 dollars a month with housing is xmas for them..
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tua111111



Joined: 20 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
tua111111 wrote:
carleverson wrote:
Too many teachers are coming here. They will work you to the bone during those 40-50 hrs per week. Mad


Speak for yourself. I'm at work during the week for 40 hours, but including all my breaks and lunch I only work 30 hours.... I feel like it's well worth the salary I receive.


where are you from? no offence...


USA... Maybe it's just my patience that doesn't have me complaining like a lot of people on here. It's a job, deal with it (not directed toward you). Not everyone is meant to work with kids.

What's the real unemployment rate in the states? How many homeless people? How many people going broke because of medical bills? The grass IS greener on this side... Even if I was paid less than I currently am I still wouldn't complain. Do what you gotta do, and if you don't gotta do it then GTFO (again, not directed toward you).
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