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Assuming this doesn't fall under the category of religion...
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seonsengnimble



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Assuming this doesn't fall under the category of religion... Reply with quote

Why on Earth do so many people accept Astrology as fact? Double blind tests show predictions to be inaccurate. There is no evidence for correlation between birthday and personality. There is no legitimate explanation for how the movement of celestial bodies influences either our personal lives or our personalities.

I assumed astrology was as widely accepted as things like wicca and ramtha, but apparently it's pretty widely accepted.

I don't get it.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You falsely assume that most people are as rational as ourselves.
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charliebrown84



Joined: 29 Jul 2009
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is the sky blue? No one knows the answer to that. Oh wait...
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

because people are silly and irrational. See also, "MSG=poison" thread and the other MSG thread.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a German doctoral student who ran a whole battery of tests on astrology.
Only 10% of those tests came out statistically significant at the .1 level and 5% came out statistically significant at the .05 level.
But she wrote at the end of the dissertation that she still believed in astrology.

In reply to your question, I honestly don't know.
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detourne_me



Joined: 26 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F'in magnets.
How do they work?
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People love to think they understand.
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8 years down



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the Chinese zodiac.

Admittedly I don't know much about it. But since it goes by years does that mean it claims everyone born in 1982 has the same personality and character traits?
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 years down wrote:
How about the Chinese zodiac.

Admittedly I don't know much about it. But since it goes by years does that mean it claims everyone born in 1982 has the same personality and character traits?


Similar to western astrology, there's a bunch of crap specific down to nearly the exact minute you were born. They have to cover their bases somehow.
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The Goalie



Joined: 17 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are pattern seeking animals. We were able to recognize the complexity of the world around us long before we could even begin to understand it. By creating patterns such as those offered by astrology we were able to tame the chaos somewhat and live with the belief that there is order and there are reasons for what happens. For some reason, such superstitions still seem more interesting to a lot of people than the increasingly satisfying explanations offered by science.
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NYC_Gal



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comfort?

I'm baffled by it, but some people need something to believe.
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 years ago, I was approached by a man in a park here in Korea who offered to do a free reading for me.

He had a huge book, and did some calculations. In a few minutes he was able to accurately assess the following things about my personal history in exact detail:

- i studied sciences, but threw a tech job away to make a living with music
- our family suffered extreme financial loss as a result of a dishonest uncle
- i lost my father to a heart attack while i attended university
- no matter the size of my income, i have frequent financial losses/emergencies that deplete my savings to almost zero
- i was engaged but the relationship failed shortly before the wedding, leading me to travel to Korea.
- the next girlfriend i had would propose to me

He was wrong about a few small things, but this was 100% correct, even the marriage proposal. At the time I gave no affirmation to his reading, but it made me a believer. You can't guess that stuff, and last I checked, science also has it's share of errors, and things that can't be explained.

I've also noticed that an overwhelming amount of successful romantic relationships in my circles fall into the 'ideal' astrological match categories.
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The Happy Warrior



Joined: 10 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the blurb on my sun sign, and as much of it seemed wrong as it was right. For example, there were many conflicts between my Miers-Briggs description and the general Cancer sign description.

However, I read the blurb on my particular birthdate, and it seemed more accurate than not.

Do I believe in astrology? Not really. I definitely don't put faith in any of the predictions. Some of the descriptions? Well, its probably the case that I read them and then assess them as plausible (although in the case of the general cancer, much is just wrong).

But I don't need to root my beliefs in scientific data. Although its always better when science is on your side!
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Assuming this doesn't fall under the category of religio Reply with quote

seonsengnimble wrote:
There is no evidence for correlation between birthday and personality.


Though there is some evidence there is a correlation between reading star-signs and developing corresponding personality traits. If every day you read you're a confident go-getter or shy shrinking violet, then a self fulfilling pattern may arise.[/quote]

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I don't get it.


Typical Capricorn Wink

I guess some people can't make decisions in their lives or are simply looking for advice, and wish to find some kind of plan that will guide them. Most astrology plays up to vague statements with which readers can create their own comfort there in. There is also a huge confirmation bias involved, where you always remember when 'you will meet an old friend' comes true, but forget when otherwise.

Just be glad your gf doesn't drag you to those damn Tarot readers.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else that doesn't go by the 'I'll believe it when I see it' rule?

If a guy came along and predicted everything I was going to do and have done, I wouldn't be content at taking that and just swallowing it... I'd need to understand how, rather than just 'wow it must be the stars'.

Even scientifically speaking, I can't take what I learn to be true without digging into it and finding out why and how. Hence why I lack any faith, religion, spirituality - Science is the only one of them all I can actually research and understand for myself.
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