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vaticanhotline
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 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: Red Herrings on this Board |
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While this board is a very useful resource for me personally and English teachers in general, I can't help but notice that a lot of people claim supposition as fact. I don't think anyone is maliciously telling tall tales, but still, the problem remains. So, if you can think of anything that you read here that you knew was wrong and you'd like to correct the mistake, please do.
Example (this is very recent): Someone wrote on this board that TA experience at a university doesn't count as teaching experience. My payslip says differently. |
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fugitive chicken
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Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| That depends on what your school decides is proper experience. For some it wouldn't; while you lucked out and got a school that does. |
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Steve_Rogers2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Red Herrings on this Board |
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| vaticanhotline wrote: |
While this board is a very useful resource for me personally and English teachers in general, I can't help but notice that a lot of people claim supposition as fact. I don't think anyone is maliciously telling tall tales, but still, the problem remains. So, if you can think of anything that you read here that you knew was wrong and you'd like to correct the mistake, please do.
Example (this is very recent): Someone wrote on this board that TA experience at a university doesn't count as teaching experience. My payslip says differently. |
Why does this remind me of the back page of MAD magazine, where you fold a picture in half, and a new picture forms, with a funny saying at the bottom?
With words like herring, maliciously, and supposition, I can't help but posit the conjecture that the OP is prepping for the LSAT, GRE, or some other some such test. 
And TA as teaching experience? Only if you're willing to be in the "Moe-T-sah" clan, no doubt.  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Red Herrings on this Board |
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| vaticanhotline wrote: |
While this board is a very useful resource for me personally and English teachers in general, I can't help but notice that a lot of people claim supposition as fact. I don't think anyone is maliciously telling tall tales, but still, the problem remains. So, if you can think of anything that you read here that you knew was wrong and you'd like to correct the mistake, please do.
Example (this is very recent): Someone wrote on this board that TA experience at a university doesn't count as teaching experience. My payslip says differently. |
Your payslip says differently, many other peoples pay slip say TA work does not count...It varies. So thats not a supposition, it reflects that there are variations out there. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Supposition is the basis of all Korean government action. Your results may vary. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Oigirl...good point.
Back home (Canada) what is recognized as teaching experience varies from school board to school board sometimes... |
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vaticanhotline
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Oooooooooooooooooooook, sorry about that, I didn't realise that was the case. So, you've cleared it up for me. Thanks. But here's another one that's doing the rounds: CEPIK is, from August, going to make teachers work 30 teaching hours a week and pay everyone a base rate of 2.2 million. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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There's tons of these "suppositions"
For example I recently debunked one (the one about how if there were news reports about a FT abusing a child, how there would be riots in the street and foreigners would be hunted down en masse). I posted links to a number of such incidents and pointed out that despite these incidents being posted in multiple newspapers and online news sources that no such riots or attacks occurred as a result of these. |
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magnolialove
Joined: 21 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Oooooooooooooooooooook, sorry about that, I didn't realise that was the case. So, you've cleared it up for me. Thanks. But here's another one that's doing the rounds: CEPIK is, from August, going to make teachers work 30 teaching hours a week and pay everyone a base rate of 2.2 million. |
This is at least partially true. I was offered a job through CEPIK and the contract I was sent stated this.
Now, I can't speak about whether they are trying to apply this retroactively to teachers who have been under CEPIK for a while already. It's just what CEPIK offered me as a potential new incoming teacher to their program. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Red Herrings on this Board |
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| I don't think anyone is maliciously telling tall tales |
I once seen me one a' them directors that was yay tall, 'bout the size a' six redwoods, like no Chinaman you'd never seen! He fired 20, doggone it, and I mean 20 teachers one by one. What had they a done? They done slandered the split shifts they did. I reckon ya go fussin 'bout yer workin' time, you might be out cold with them lads an' lassies, wishin' ya hadn't flapped yer trap. |
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vaticanhotline
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| magnolialove wrote: |
| vaticanhotline wrote: |
| Oooooooooooooooooooook, sorry about that, I didn't realise that was the case. So, you've cleared it up for me. Thanks. But here's another one that's doing the rounds: CEPIK is, from August, going to make teachers work 30 teaching hours a week and pay everyone a base rate of 2.2 million. |
This is at least partially true. I was offered a job through CEPIK and the contract I was sent stated this.
Now, I can't speak about whether they are trying to apply this retroactively to teachers who have been under CEPIK for a while already. It's just what CEPIK offered me as a potential new incoming teacher to their program. |
Can you post the contract, or give a link to it? |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to second the request for the contract as well.
Not that I think you are lying, but there are a number of hakwon/companies that run after school programs who represent themselves as a P.S program in order to lure in unwary teachers. Usually the contract clarifies the situation, which is why I would like to see it. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Red Herrings on this Board |
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| vaticanhotline wrote: |
While this board is a very useful resource for me personally and English teachers in general, I can't help but notice that a lot of people claim supposition as fact. I don't think anyone is maliciously telling tall tales, but still, the problem remains. So, if you can think of anything that you read here that you knew was wrong and you'd like to correct the mistake, please do.
Example (this is very recent): Someone wrote on this board that TA experience at a university doesn't count as teaching experience. My payslip says differently. |
So true. Some of here only give conjecture and project it as fact because we all know that in Korea everything is black and white and there are NO "shades of gray" or "exceptions to the rule" for anything.
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Take things said on here with a grain of salt
no I meant a mountain of salt |
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BetsyNY
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
I think that also it depends what kind of TA you were--I led my own section of composition as a TA, designed the syllabus, selected texts, etc--some TAs just grade papers. |
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