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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Canadian national identity - from a curions American Reply with quote

I've long had interest in how Canadians see themselves, and how much their identity is mainly from not being the US. I came across the following interesting, and I thought hilarious, quotation from London's Times Literary Supplement, something called "Letter from Toronto":

"Canada is one of those happy places where - in Voltaire's phrase - there it no history, and nothing ever happens: no wars, no earthquakes, only a few plagues, and no Monica Lewinsky. In fact, the whole point of Canada, and of its system of government, is to prevent things from happening. And, if anything does happen, to pretend it didn't."

Canadians, what do you think? What sets aside Canadians from others?
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8 years down



Joined: 16 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian national identity - from a curions American Reply with quote

jhuntingtonus wrote:
Canadians, what do you think? What sets aside Canadians from others?


Laid-back people. Nothing special. And the fact that we don't care about stuff like this.

Other than hockey, I'm not sure there is anything a large amount of people give a rat's ass about. Haven't been home in a while though, so maybe it's different now...
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we focus on what is common between us and other nations. That might explain while in a backpackers the canadians tend to sit and talk with most nationalities and the american will quite often be sitting by themself reading a map for the next days tour.

Being canadian and have lived away from canada for any years I find canadians I meet just like any other country in that some are cool and others are idiots.

I always kind of feel judged by Canadians and think they like to try to use their intelect to act superior to others. Canadians are like the shy person who masks it by acting superior to others.

Canadian women have a complex about being fat or becoming fat.

Canadians also tend to supress their emotions. I remember when I first left canada and worked in an italian restaurant I was always scared the Italians were going to kill each other because they were so emotionally expressive.

Canadians in their late teens and 20 's also think it is cool to waste themselves with dope and alcohol. Dope is a huge problem in canada and people accept it as cool and normal rather than seeing it as a supresive drug.

Certain canadians think canada is the bees knees and are not open to hearing about anything outside canada and if they do travel they wear canada clothes and talk all things canadian.

Canadians act very nice but believe me they can be two faced.

Canadian customs thinks canada is so great that they treat you very badly if you spend to many years outside canada. I think this sums up how the average canadian thinks canada is the best country. So when i return to visit i get treated like crap by some people and customs because I must be confused to not spend so much time in canada.

canadians are smarter than americans in many ways and will be making fun of you if you are american and you wont get it because you are not smart enough-haha.
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JBomb



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadians do have a huge superiority complex when it comes to the USA. A lot of it is because we constantly have to try to come up with ways that we are somehow different than the USA when really there is not that much at all. The WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU SO THERE is kind of all we got. Being stoned and in a coma is a perfect way to sum it up though. Nothing happens and everything is so slow you feel like you are running in mud and hardening cement at the same time. Even its intellectualism and attempts to portray itself as intellectual is designed to send you running in endless circles. It seems to make us happy though. As long as we can shout out loud that shit is shit and crap is crap and we are not American when we pretty much are it makes us feel better and content to go back to doing nothing.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JBomb wrote:
Canadians do have a huge superiority complex when it comes to the USA. A lot of it is because we constantly have to try to come up with ways that we are somehow different than the USA when really there is not that much at all. The WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU SO THERE is kind of all we got. Being stoned and in a coma is a perfect way to sum it up though. Nothing happens and everything is so slow you feel like you are running in mud and hardening cement at the same time. Even its intellectualism and attempts to portray itself as intellectual is designed to send you running in endless circles. It seems to make us happy though. As long as we can shout out loud that shit is shit and crap is crap and we are not American when we pretty much are it makes us feel better and content to go back to doing nothing.


Yup a bunch of sleepwalkers who will defend their state at all costs. My family is always on edge with me when I visit because i might say something or do something that goes against the grain.
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were kind of like Americans with better beer, better hockey, better weed, higher taxes and of course...........TUQUES

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuque
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Quack Addict



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFs5l9K--7M&feature=related
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada doesn't have much, if any, of a uniform national identity. It's the second largest country in the world, the 36th most populous, very culturally diverse and a mere 143 years old. A lobster fishing east coaster has little in common with a Quebecois businessman has little in common with a Torontonian Muslim Imam has little in common with an Albertan oil baron. Give us another hundred years and three times the population and maybe some kind of congruity will pop up.
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Steve_Rogers2008



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone once said the best time to invade Canada is during "Hockey Night in Canada." hopefully Don Cherry would be available to lead the war effort for 'em....


too bad he hasn't been able to survive a coup and take over Canada. imagine if he became the first czar of the Great White North... Very Happy
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Seoulio



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
Canada doesn't have much, if any, of a uniform national identity. It's the second largest country in the world, the 36th most populous, very culturally diverse and a mere 143 years old. A lobster fishing east coaster has little in common with a Quebecois businessman has little in common with a Torontonian Muslim Imam has little in common with an Albertan oil baron. Give us another hundred years and three times the population and maybe some kind of congruity will pop up.


What does a wall street banker have in common with a balck man from the ghetto, what about a redneck from south Carolina with a gay man from san francisco? A rich trust fun valley girl and a mexican on welfare?

Everything you have mentioned basically is a non issue. We are all still proud to be a Canadian ( except for half of quebec)

I love " a mere 143" years old, like we are babies or something. America is not much more older, and thats only because they established themsleves as an official country a bit earlier, we took our time and figured out a number of agreements with England and Quebec, our history includes diplomacy and talking.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulio wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
Canada doesn't have much, if any, of a uniform national identity. It's the second largest country in the world, the 36th most populous, very culturally diverse and a mere 143 years old. A lobster fishing east coaster has little in common with a Quebecois businessman has little in common with a Torontonian Muslim Imam has little in common with an Albertan oil baron. Give us another hundred years and three times the population and maybe some kind of congruity will pop up.


What does a wall street banker have in common with a balck man from the ghetto, what about a redneck from south Carolina with a gay man from san francisco? A rich trust fun valley girl and a mexican on welfare?


That they all foolishly believe Muslim terrorists are a real threat to them? Well, maybe the fellow from San Francisco doesn't.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:

Canadian customs thinks canada is so great that they treat you very badly if you spend to many years outside canada. I think this sums up how the average canadian thinks canada is the best country. So when i return to visit i get treated like crap by some people and customs because I must be confused to not spend so much time in canada.

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You certainly sound confused. No, Canada Customs officials do not treat you very badly if you spend too many years outside of Canada. I have spent 10 years outside and each of the three occasions I've returned I was never treated like "crap".
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
D.D. wrote:

Canadian customs thinks canada is so great that they treat you very badly if you spend to many years outside canada. I think this sums up how the average canadian thinks canada is the best country. So when i return to visit i get treated like crap by some people and customs because I must be confused to not spend so much time in canada.

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You certainly sound confused. No, Canada Customs officials do not treat you very badly if you spend too many years outside of Canada. I have spent 10 years outside and each of the three occasions I've returned I was never treated like "crap".


Agreed, they've always said 'welcome home' to me. And I've been gone for about 10 years as well.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
D.D. wrote:

Canadian customs thinks canada is so great that they treat you very badly if you spend to many years outside canada. I think this sums up how the average canadian thinks canada is the best country. So when i return to visit i get treated like crap by some people and customs because I must be confused to not spend so much time in canada.

.


You certainly sound confused. No, Canada Customs officials do not treat you very badly if you spend too many years outside of Canada. I have spent 10 years outside and each of the three occasions I've returned I was never treated like "crap".


Heh I was just relating my experience. How does that make me confused?

Just because it didnt happen to you doesn't mean it doesnt happen.

Another thing I should add is canadians think canada is so great that they get pissed when you put it down and call you things like confused.

Remember canada is great and anyone who says otherwise must be confused.
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D.D.



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
D.D. wrote:

Canadian customs thinks canada is so great that they treat you very badly if you spend to many years outside canada. I think this sums up how the average canadian thinks canada is the best country. So when i return to visit i get treated like crap by some people and customs because I must be confused to not spend so much time in canada.

.


You certainly sound confused. No, Canada Customs officials do not treat you very badly if you spend too many years outside of Canada. I have spent 10 years outside and each of the three occasions I've returned I was never treated like "crap".


Agreed, they've always said 'welcome home' to me. And I've been gone for about 10 years as well.


After one canadian challenges your attack on canada then his buddy will also back him up to make sure that the group think stays in place.

remember canada is great and nobody must challenge this thought.
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