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Has Toastmasters helped with your teaching?
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Dixon



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Has Toastmasters helped with your teaching? Reply with quote

I was thinking about joining a Toastmasters class. I was wondering if there are Toastmasters here who feel it helped develop themselves professionally as teachers.
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tacoman



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I belonged to Toastmasters and finished my first 10 speeches. I would say join it. The confidence and skill you obtain through Toastmasters will help with any age-group you teach. If it is an option, join it. After I have studies Korean for long enough I will search for a Korean speaking Toastmasters club (if such a thing exists!)...
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny you mention it....myself and another teacher are planning on starting a Toastmasters Club on our campus. When I was in college I did Toastmasters for awhile. I have no idea how it will go over on our campus, but we are hoping to get at least 10-12 students involved.
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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an ATM-B with nine years as a member and one as a club president, I say yes too. Teaching IS public speaking, and the TM (over?)emphasis on humor and entertainment is valuable to you as a teacher.
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Spike



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.


In Ireland, the toastmaster I attend costs 5 euro for 2 hours (as a guest). The annual fee is under 80 euro for most clubs. How is that money wasting?

It's not a cult. I don't talk/communicate with anybody after the 2 hour session and they've never tried to contact me. Have you tried asking your friend questions such as "what do you base your opinion on?".
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.


In Ireland, the toastmaster I attend costs 5 euro for 2 hours (as a guest). The annual fee is under 80 euro for most clubs. How is that money wasting?

It's not a cult. I don't talk/communicate with anybody after the 2 hour session and they've never tried to contact me. Have you tried asking your friend questions such as "what do you base your opinion on?".


Yeah right, your tinfoil hat is blinding me!
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Trip



Joined: 28 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a thread about Toastmasters in Korea:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2334594#2334594

Toastmasters will improve your communication on stage and off stage, your leadership with groups and organizing meetings and events, and your networking in Korea.

Each Toastmasters club is different. There are some I would never go to due to lack of common ground with the members. There are others that I would recommend to everyone. 99% of the time, the people are there to improve themselves professionally and/or to help others. Plus most like to hit the bar after the meeting because they are social people.

Membership for 6 months is 21 USD and everything you do is voluntary. That's up to cult standards, right?


About starting a TM club on campus...First, to be chartered, you have to have 20 members willing to pay regular dues and the cost of chartering the club (one-time fees, but pricey for students). You can run TM meetings without being chartered, but you won't be recognized by HQ. Second, all your members have to be 18 years old (western age). Third, people who have experience in student clubs, or students in regular clubs, in Korea will tell you the lifespan and dedication of Korean students is short due to their HW and student club obligations, especially once final exams come along.
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Dixon



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.



I know that in most clubs in Seoul you have to pay, but where I am in Canada right now they use a university room for free, so there are just the membership dues which are like $40 for a whole year. That includes books and stuff that they give you on speech writing. That sounds like the cheapest self-improvement organization I've ever seen.
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Trip



Joined: 28 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dixon wrote:
Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.



I know that in most clubs in Seoul you have to pay, but where I am in Canada right now they use a university room for free, so there are just the membership dues which are like $40 for a whole year. That includes books and stuff that they give you on speech writing. That sounds like the cheapest self-improvement organization I've ever seen.


Many clubs don't have sponsored rooms so they have to charge attendees a few bucks to cover room rental costs. Recently, Sinchon TM used to meet free at Hongdae, but lost their free room and now have to rent at a new location.
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some people in the TM in Seoul....north of the river, but I am not sure which district they hail from. They are pretty involved and love it. Not cult-ish at all.
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Hawkeye Pierce



Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Location: Uijeongbu

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.


In Ireland, the toastmaster I attend costs 5 euro for 2 hours (as a guest). The annual fee is under 80 euro for most clubs. How is that money wasting?

It's not a cult. I don't talk/communicate with anybody after the 2 hour session and they've never tried to contact me. Have you tried asking your friend questions such as "what do you base your opinion on?".


Sitting around for two hours putting bread in a toaster does sound very strange to me.

Do they provide butter and jelly for those five euros, or do you need to bring your own? For five euros, McDonald's has better breakfasts with some meat!

Laughing
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Trip



Joined: 28 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
tfunk wrote:
Spike wrote:
I've been interested in joining in the past, but have been told that it's basically a money-wasting cult... (not my words)

One girl mentioned how she was afraid to be served kool-aid after attending a few.


In Ireland, the toastmaster I attend costs 5 euro for 2 hours (as a guest). The annual fee is under 80 euro for most clubs. How is that money wasting?

It's not a cult. I don't talk/communicate with anybody after the 2 hour session and they've never tried to contact me. Have you tried asking your friend questions such as "what do you base your opinion on?".


Sitting around for two hours putting bread in a toaster does sound very strange to me.

Do they provide butter and jelly for those five euros, or do you need to bring your own? For five euros, McDonald's has better breakfasts with some meat!

Laughing


The toast we master starts off with simple butter and jam, but as you progress, you learn how to make grilled cheese and soon you are making toasted sandwiches with gourmet cheese, steak, ham, and special breads. McDonald's has nothing on us.
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languistic



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
They are pretty involved and love it. Not cult-ish at all.


There you go. People in cults generally hate their organizations and remain uninvolved.
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languistic



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trip wrote:

The toast we master starts off with simple butter and jam, but as you progress, you learn how to make grilled cheese and soon you are making toasted sandwiches with gourmet cheese, steak, ham, and special breads. McDonald's has nothing on us.



You really should stop.
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